Two cursors. One moves. Cannot Click.

Installed on Tuesday 10/26 and all was great until today. M1 Mini.


Has anyone had a problem on wake from sleep with the mouse cursor on Monterey?

Twice I've had two cursors. One moves based on the mouse. One is frozen. Clicking is not working.

This has happened twice today. I have a USB mouse and a BT trackpad integrated with my keyboard. Both moved the cursor, but no clicks.

I'd take a screen shot, but well, no clicks taken.


Just to make the story sadder. Another Monterey bug, also today. Have 3 partitions on a USB drive. Right click on one to eject it alone and they all go away. This was fine until today as well. I've done this in Monterey until today. Big Sur never faulted on this.


In in faint praise for Monterey. Big Sur would often wake immediately after sleep. Sometimes it would take two or three sleep attempts before it would take. I use a watch for wake if it matters. Not as bad in Monterey. Faint praise indeed.


Thanks.

Mac mini 2018 or later

Posted on Oct 29, 2021 5:35 PM

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Nov 7, 2021 6:36 AM in response to Steven Kutoroff

This appears to be a problem with HDMI displays.

I get the same quartering on Windows 10 when it comes out of sleep, though it recovers quicker.

You just have to wait for the display to reset to full screen and then everything should work. Wake up the monitor first, and then the Mac and I usually don't see the problem.

However, I don't normally see that issue with the released version of Monterey.

Oct 30, 2021 6:44 AM in response to Steven Kutoroff

Reply of my own post to an update.


It happened again. Worse in some respects than the previous two.

So, I took a photo this time. Don't know why it was rotated on the upload, but imagine it counterclockwise 90 degrees.

This happened on wake from sleep using the watch.

The background is one-quarter size and in the lower left corner only.

You can see one cursor in the middle of the screen on the (real) left (rotated top) over the mountain. This one is static.

You can see the other bigger cursor up top of screen (right in image), It moves but is useless. No click effects.

This after two whole days of happy to have Monterey.

Sorry Apple, total fail. Maybe no total, but bad.

Never had this on Big Sur.

This is a UHD display on USB-C running on a Mac Mini M1.

Might as well stop using sleep at all and just power the thing off each time.

Oct 30, 2021 7:19 AM in response to lllaass

No. I powered off using power switch. Then powered on. Normal login. Entered the post/reply and set it to sleep.

Woke it up, it needed password.

No problem.

So, this is some weird stuff.

Third time is not the charm!

Until yesterday, the display was off HDMI. Moved it to USB-C yesterday afternoon. The cursor stuff never happened on HDMI.

If I get more incidents like this, I'll try going back to HDMI just to see if there is a correlation.

It would be even weirder if it is interface dependent.


Cheers,

SK!

Oct 31, 2021 3:22 PM in response to Steven Kutoroff

Oops It Did It Again.


After a full 24 hours of no weird problems, it happens again.

Monterey is a bust.


Same auto wake from sleep as Big Sur.

This new crazy.


No rotation issue this time. Imaged the whole screen. You can barely see one cursor below the big rock to the right of the lower left quadrant. You can see the other cursor in the middle of the upper right quadrant. When Monterey boots, I get the quarter quadrant in the upper left before it expands to the whole screen in what Apple calls a scaled display with more space.


Also, Monterey is now officially as bad as Big Sur in the self wake on sleep issue. I hate that.


I think the partition dismount issue mentioned might have been carelessness on my part. I take it back.

I still have not tried going back to HDMI as I need the HDMI input for the Raspberry Pi visible in the photo.

Oct 31, 2021 5:30 PM in response to Steven Kutoroff

I have a similar issue on a 2016 MBP running Big Sur. Another fun issue is that it will randomly dump me back to the login screen, as though I'd rebooted it (i.e. I have to log in using my password, not TouchID). I've completely wiped it, and reinstalled BS clean - still stroppy.


This is the most irritating MBP I've ever owned (it's the model with the dodgy keyboard). I have Asperger's,, and it's almost driving me to the point of a meltdown - I wish I'd just left it at Catalina! That was fine (apart from the keyboard).


Oh, yes, one more - the Touch Bar randomly dies (this is definitely a BS issue). I've seen posts on Mac Rumours where people say theirs goes blank (but they can still use the keys by guesswork) - not mine,, it won't function at all. I've read many places that you can fix it by killing the TouchBarServer and ControlStrip in Terminal - doesn't work. I've reset the SMC, PRAM and NVRAM. Nope. It's identical to this post:https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252829412 (and, as that poster has stated, it is not a hardware issue because it worked fine under Catalina. It is definitely a problem with BS). A reboot sorts it for a while ('while' being an indeterminate length of time - 2 days, a week, a fortnight..). I actually like the TB - but this is driving me insane. Won't hold my breath waiting for Apple to acknowledge and fix it...

Nov 1, 2021 3:05 AM in response to RosaAlba

Apple seems to be focused on adding features to macos, features I never use rather than keeping it the best OS available.


Losing Ivie maybe the best for them, your touch bar problems and loss of its function should be a class action lawsuit if it affects many users. My 5 year old PC laptop is running Windows 11 flawlessly, too bad I hardly use it. Microsoft passed Apple's market cap last week. What a reversal


Big Sur and Monterey seem to have been rushed to release.


Good luck on seeing your issues get resolved.

Nov 7, 2021 7:33 AM in response to Barney-15E

I never saw this until I switched to USB-C and have yet to see it with HDMI.

It is possible that I did not give the Mini time to self correct as you suggest it will.


I do see the quartering on power up and reboot which passes quickly as it switches from what I assume is the default video setting to that in my preferences which sets for "scaled" and "more space" in the terms used by display preferences.


What I saw those two times was somewhat different.

Until the M1 Mini I had (and still have) a 2009 iMac 27" running High Sierra. Many changes and still the same.

I do like many of the features of Monterey (and Big Sur).

Cheers.


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