iPad Pro loosing GPS signal Navionics

Still happening. Branch new 12.9 IPad Pro 2021 Wi-Fi+Cell with the navionics app installed and location services always on.


We’ll be sailing and then the signal drops leaving the speed to read 0 and the heading way off. So not an ideal situation when sailing offshore.


I must admit, though I needed to upgrade my ipad, I’m disappointed I didn’t research super hard on this issue - seems as though it’s been happening for ages with no solutions….

iPad Pro, iPadOS 15

Posted on Dec 31, 2021 1:56 AM

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Posted on Dec 31, 2021 4:01 AM

For marine and aviation applications, use of a dedicated GPS receiver is often recommended. While WiFi+Cellular models of iPad incorporate a GNSS receiver within the Cellular chipset - providing accurate position and velocity measurement for a moving iPad - we see occasional complaint similar to your own. Consider that while some users experience difficulties, there are possibly considerably more that experience trouble-free operation; it follows that there will always be some variation in antenna location and individual application.


Occasional signal loss can be caused by many contributory factors. Boat construction (wood or composite - some composites, such as carbon fibre - can block signals), deck fittings (signal blocking - or multipath interference) and other electrical/radio devices (signal interference) combined with sub-optimal GNSS antenna location can all combine to cause loss of signal lock. Even a film of water on a surface that covers/shades the iPad can block GNSS signals.


For critical and below-deck marine applications, you would be best advised to consider use of an external GNSS receiver or repeater - as this allows the GNSS antenna/receiver to be placed in a better location. There are many from which to choose - wired or wireless (Bluetooth) are available; BadElf have good reputation.



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Dec 31, 2021 4:01 AM in response to AliceClancy

For marine and aviation applications, use of a dedicated GPS receiver is often recommended. While WiFi+Cellular models of iPad incorporate a GNSS receiver within the Cellular chipset - providing accurate position and velocity measurement for a moving iPad - we see occasional complaint similar to your own. Consider that while some users experience difficulties, there are possibly considerably more that experience trouble-free operation; it follows that there will always be some variation in antenna location and individual application.


Occasional signal loss can be caused by many contributory factors. Boat construction (wood or composite - some composites, such as carbon fibre - can block signals), deck fittings (signal blocking - or multipath interference) and other electrical/radio devices (signal interference) combined with sub-optimal GNSS antenna location can all combine to cause loss of signal lock. Even a film of water on a surface that covers/shades the iPad can block GNSS signals.


For critical and below-deck marine applications, you would be best advised to consider use of an external GNSS receiver or repeater - as this allows the GNSS antenna/receiver to be placed in a better location. There are many from which to choose - wired or wireless (Bluetooth) are available; BadElf have good reputation.



Jan 2, 2022 4:51 AM in response to AliceClancy

I fully understand you viewpoint. I also acknowledge your non-reliance upon GNSS as a sole source of navigation data (unlike some contributors for whom GNSS is considered adequate) - your approach being fully consistent with good navigation practice.


What is perhaps interesting is that the only complaints that I have seen, within this support community, relate specifically to the Navionics App. By definition, support communities only tend to capture issues or difficulties - and not tales of non-issue. That said, reports of issues are few.


I do have a potential suggestion. While using your iPad for marine navigation, turn off Cellular. Here’s why…


iPad and iPhone will periodically/automatically scan for Cellular signals. If Cellular networks cannot be found, scanning will continue in an attempt to find a serving network - using CPU and increasing battery consumption. It follows that Cellular network coverage is biased to land-based communications and may have poor, intermittent, or no coverage in some maritime environments. Combine this with sub-optimal device antenna’s, in sub-optimal positions, only combines to exacerbate the problem. If Cellular coverage is poor, your iPad may be needlessly expending processing effort.


iOS/iPadOS is not a pre-emptive operating system, but is optimised for low-power battery operation. CPU and processing bottlenecks, caused by other processes, may temporarily (for a few seconds) steal resources from a foreground process - such as your Navionics App.


Disabling Cellular will not impact the GNSS receiver (this being an independent element of the Cellular chipset), but will release resources for other more critical processing. I make no warrantees that this will fully resolve the problem, but it may be helpful. If nothing else, your iPad battery will benefit in reducing battery consumption in areas of poor signal.


Jan 2, 2022 1:57 AM in response to LotusPilot

Hi LotusPilot,


Totally get what you are saying and we do have a backup GPS unit and of course charts and nav skills.


The frustrating thing is Navionics works perfectly, without any fault, on both our iPhones. No dropping out, just continued tracking and accurate speed. No need for the back up GNSS receiver. Infact, the phones back up the Ipad!


Like many other questions on forums out there, it seems as it’s the iPad and from what I can see, it’s the newer Pro’s that seem to be causing the issue.


If the app works on other Apple products without issue, you would think it would work one the iPad…..


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