Cannot format external HD to HFS+ (encrypted) for Time Machine

I am trying to format a 2TB external drive to use with Time Machine. When I click Erase on Disk Utility I do not have the option to encrypt in MacOS Extended format--although Apple documentation says I should have this.


My version of Disk Utility is 21.0. My OS is 12.1 (Monterey, MacBookAir).


What I am trying to do is to transfer an existing Time Machine file (1.7 TB) which goes back several years to the external drive, so that I can use the drive as a TM backup drive. For that, I need the external drive to be HFS+, and I want it to be encrypted.


Since I cannot follow the Apple directions because the encryption option is not available, I am frustrated. When I use Finder to encrypt the drive, the format changes to AFPS, which is incompatible with TM.

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 12.1

Posted on Feb 14, 2022 11:10 AM

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Feb 14, 2022 4:38 PM in response to lllaass

How to make sure Time Machine works when you upgrade your hard drive may provide additional useful information. However, lllaass' suggestion to archive earlier Time Machine backups sounds like the most straightforward approach.


I recall that I once tried to continue Time Machine backups on the same volume after an OS upgrade. While the backups from the previous version of the OS were retained, I couldn't use Time Machine restore for the older backups (although I could copy files using Finder). I ended up erasing the entire volume and starting a new set of backups.



Feb 16, 2022 5:28 AM in response to steve626

Thanks for sharing your experience. When you restored the file, did you use the Time Machine Restore capability or did you simply copy the file from the (HFS+) backup volume using Finder? I'm asking because in my case, I found that I could not restore files using Time Machine Restore from a backup made using an earlier release of macOS. On the other hand, I believe that Time Machine backups did continue using the same volume from the earlier release. Eventually, I erased the entire volume and started a new set of backups.


Feb 16, 2022 6:48 AM in response to BlueberryLover

BlueberryLover wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. When you restored the file, did you use the Time Machine Restore capability or did you simply copy the file from the (HFS+) backup volume using Finder? I'm asking because in my case, I found that I could not restore files using Time Machine Restore from a backup made using an earlier release of macOS. On the other hand, I believe that Time Machine backups did continue using the same volume from the earlier release. Eventually, I erased the entire volume and started a new set of backups.


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/c3b61887-731b-41ae-81b0-d2f130ff714a

I restored the files by entering Time Machine ("Enter Time Machine" from the drop down Time Machine menu item), with its spooky outer space like interface, going back using the bars on the right to a very old backup that predated the upgrade to Monterey, and selecting the files to restore. Since those files already existed, I selected the option to keep both the original as well as the restored files, they were identical. I did not use the Finder for this although I believe that should work also.


Another test of this came from my other much older 2013 MacBook Air. It was on Catalina, again with two HFS+ Time Machine disks. It was upgraded to Big Sur in December 2021, and for that Mac Big Sur is the furthest it can go. I kept using one of those HFS+ Time Machine backups but reformatted the other to APFS so for that backup disk the oldest backup is from Dec 2021, while the HFS+ one goes back years. I can restore from very old backups on the HFS+ backup in the Time Machine interface (Enter Time Machine). Using the Finder to simply copy a backed up file also works (on either backup) but is less fun.


I think this is the way it is supposed to work, not having to use the Finder to restore files but instead being able to Enter Time Machine with its special interface and restore from that. It's more work to restore by copying in the Finder, but that's also an alternative.

Feb 17, 2022 1:48 PM in response to steve626

Steve626,


On my MacBookAir (early 2015, OS 12.1) my Time Machine has files going back to 2018 the TM interface only lets me go back to June 2021. I believe I can use Finder to retrieve older files but TM isn't acting as you reported.


If you or others can provide insights, that would be helpful. Thanks for letting me know what you're able to do.

Feb 18, 2022 4:53 AM in response to steve626

Many thanks to Steve626 for a helpful and informative reply. Similar insights (but with fewer constructive hints) is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Machine_(macOS)#Revamp_in_macOS_Big_Sur. The upgrade to Big Sur 11.4, which I undertook in June 2021, seems to be what cut me off from using the TimeMachine interface to restore older files from my HFS+ external drive.


My plan now is to archive my most long-duration TM backup files, and then start fresh with AFPS (encrypted) format external drives.


Thanks to all who have responded to my query.

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