Older Photos in I Message not showing up when scrolling through

this to continue earlier unresolved thread on this

i am seeing same and additional issue

the thread scrolls back to beginning normally in iPad

on Mac I now get a spinning ball for message stream

earlier I was getting img icon not the image

going into Library messages …. I was able to see several of the missing pics

i looked at permissions they seem to be correct

internet is connected, plenty of disk and iCloud space

i would like to save these streams as PDFs, then delete all messages . Clear the messages library

that isn’t available on iPad. Logged out, restarted, logged back in ….

actually, earlier I tried a resynch, this restored several previously deleted streams (I don’t need)

and it exhausted my 5gb cloud storage so I upgraded to 50g

mac messages still spinning