Big Sur to Monterey -- is it time to upgrade??

Is Monterey stable enough now to upgrade? My key working apps are FCPX, Compressor, Logic Audio, Pages, Numbers. Photos, Affinity Series: Photo, Publisher, Designer; MSOffice.


I'm in the middle of productions and don't want to suddenly have to spend days fixing issues in Monterey that are not issues in Big Sur (which I'm currently using).


Any suggestions?


Ben


MacBook Pro

Posted on Jul 5, 2022 4:53 PM

Reply
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Posted on Jul 5, 2022 5:16 PM

Tips Monterey Upgrade 


The below points should be consider before attempting the upgrade.


Point # 1 - Does the >>  Computer Qualify for the Monterey upgrade 


Point # 1A - There are reports appearing on the ASC Forums regarding failed installation of Monterey on older Qualifying Apple Computers. In most cases this is related to having a NON Apple Original internal drive ?  


The EFI Boot ROM included in Monterey is verifying for Original Apple Drive and if not found , may Balk or fail to upgrade to Monterey. 


Reports indicate the EFI BOOT ROM is Required to Flash the Computer and is a  requirement for a Successful Monterey Installation.


Point # 1B - Caution - jumping over all the newer versions and directly to Monterey on Qualifying computers is Technically possible - there are those who have attempted and were successful. Then there are those who attempted and had less than good results.


If this is a Production or Mission Critical Set-up - a more prudent and measure approach is suggested. 


The above is from observations on the Apple Support Community Forums and IMHO


Point # 2 - >> How to upgrade to macOS Monterey


Point # 3 - Empty Space Requirements  >> If upgrading from macOS Sierra or later, your Mac needs 26GB of available storage to upgrade. If upgrading from an earlier release, your Mac needs up to 44GB of available storage. 


Point # 4 - Empty Space afterwards - it is suggested to keep at least 15%  to 20% of the Drive Total Capacity as Empty Space for good operations of the computer and for additional updates to Monterey to download, expand and install.


Point # 5 - The upgrade will require a quick, stable and reliable Internet Connection - preferred method is via Ethernet Connection. 


Point # 6 - If using Wifi - move computer as close to the Access Point / Router and disconnect all other devices connected to Wifi. Want the maximum bandwidth for the computer being upgraded to Monterey


Point # 7Commercial VPNs   should only be used if Mandated by Corporate Head Office for working remotely. Otherwise - ones Privacy and Security touted by the VPN is suspect. 


Point # 8 - If downloading Monterey from behind a VPN it may increase Packet Looses and an incomplete or corrupted Installer.


Point # 9 - AntiVirus Software should be removed as per Developers Instructions. They are unneeded, cause havoc and interfere with the normal operation of the OS including the download and installation of Monterey


The Built in Security  is all that is required. 


There are no known Windows-like Viruses in the wild that self replicate and affect macOS because of the underling UNIX  Foundation and Permission Limitation. 


Point # 10 - Disk Cleaners, Optimizers and UnInstaller are not needed. They will often times attempt to Modify, Alter, Remove or Delete elements of the Operating System requiring a Re-Installation.


Point # 11 - Do you have a Rescue Plan In-Place. This comprises having 3 Backups using 2 methods and 1 Off Site incase of Theft, Loss or Natural Disasters. A Time Machine Backup  is very useful and can be used to Revert to Previous Working macOS


Point # 12 - For addition purposes - two Tested Clones each to separate external drives. This is insurance incase the upgrades goes sideways. At least one Tested Clone and / or Time Machine Backup should be Off - Site


Does my CCC backup have to be bootable for me to restore data from it?


Point # 13 - Are the installed Applications / Extensions compatible with Monterey. Check with the Developer for compatible Apps / extensions. Do they offer updates or upgrades. Same goes for Third Party Drivers for Printer, Scanners etc.




Similar questions

11 replies
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Jul 5, 2022 5:16 PM in response to Ben Low

Tips Monterey Upgrade 


The below points should be consider before attempting the upgrade.


Point # 1 - Does the >>  Computer Qualify for the Monterey upgrade 


Point # 1A - There are reports appearing on the ASC Forums regarding failed installation of Monterey on older Qualifying Apple Computers. In most cases this is related to having a NON Apple Original internal drive ?  


The EFI Boot ROM included in Monterey is verifying for Original Apple Drive and if not found , may Balk or fail to upgrade to Monterey. 


Reports indicate the EFI BOOT ROM is Required to Flash the Computer and is a  requirement for a Successful Monterey Installation.


Point # 1B - Caution - jumping over all the newer versions and directly to Monterey on Qualifying computers is Technically possible - there are those who have attempted and were successful. Then there are those who attempted and had less than good results.


If this is a Production or Mission Critical Set-up - a more prudent and measure approach is suggested. 


The above is from observations on the Apple Support Community Forums and IMHO


Point # 2 - >> How to upgrade to macOS Monterey


Point # 3 - Empty Space Requirements  >> If upgrading from macOS Sierra or later, your Mac needs 26GB of available storage to upgrade. If upgrading from an earlier release, your Mac needs up to 44GB of available storage. 


Point # 4 - Empty Space afterwards - it is suggested to keep at least 15%  to 20% of the Drive Total Capacity as Empty Space for good operations of the computer and for additional updates to Monterey to download, expand and install.


Point # 5 - The upgrade will require a quick, stable and reliable Internet Connection - preferred method is via Ethernet Connection. 


Point # 6 - If using Wifi - move computer as close to the Access Point / Router and disconnect all other devices connected to Wifi. Want the maximum bandwidth for the computer being upgraded to Monterey


Point # 7Commercial VPNs   should only be used if Mandated by Corporate Head Office for working remotely. Otherwise - ones Privacy and Security touted by the VPN is suspect. 


Point # 8 - If downloading Monterey from behind a VPN it may increase Packet Looses and an incomplete or corrupted Installer.


Point # 9 - AntiVirus Software should be removed as per Developers Instructions. They are unneeded, cause havoc and interfere with the normal operation of the OS including the download and installation of Monterey


The Built in Security  is all that is required. 


There are no known Windows-like Viruses in the wild that self replicate and affect macOS because of the underling UNIX  Foundation and Permission Limitation. 


Point # 10 - Disk Cleaners, Optimizers and UnInstaller are not needed. They will often times attempt to Modify, Alter, Remove or Delete elements of the Operating System requiring a Re-Installation.


Point # 11 - Do you have a Rescue Plan In-Place. This comprises having 3 Backups using 2 methods and 1 Off Site incase of Theft, Loss or Natural Disasters. A Time Machine Backup  is very useful and can be used to Revert to Previous Working macOS


Point # 12 - For addition purposes - two Tested Clones each to separate external drives. This is insurance incase the upgrades goes sideways. At least one Tested Clone and / or Time Machine Backup should be Off - Site


Does my CCC backup have to be bootable for me to restore data from it?


Point # 13 - Are the installed Applications / Extensions compatible with Monterey. Check with the Developer for compatible Apps / extensions. Do they offer updates or upgrades. Same goes for Third Party Drivers for Printer, Scanners etc.




Jul 5, 2022 6:24 PM in response to Ben Low

Ben Low wrote:

Is Monterey stable enough now to upgrade? My key working apps are FCPX, Compressor, Logic Audio, Pages, Numbers. Photos, Affinity Series: Photo, Publisher, Designer; MSOffice.

I'm in the middle of productions and don't want to suddenly have to spend days fixing issues in Monterey that are not issues in Big Sur (which I'm currently using).

Any suggestions?

Ben

If you are in the middle of productions then the answer is definitely NO, do not upgrade at this time. In addition if you are thinking about upgrading your production machine you should think about having a test machine to install Monterey on and test your entire setup and software, especially if this is how you make your living. Have an external drive you can clone your current system to and boot from. Install Monterey on that drive, then test every thing to make sure it all works. This is not to say there is a problem with Monterey, there isn’t, but we’ve seen countless users who use their Macs to make their living upgrade without backing up and testing beforehand only have something go wrong, winding up the creek without a paddle. Don’t be that user. Make sure all of your production software is fully compatible with Monterey ahead of time.


Never be tempted to install beta software on your production machine. Don’t do it! Be careful, be deliberate, and don't get in a hurry, your business may depend on it.

Jul 6, 2022 5:54 AM in response to Ben Low

For me, personally, I have one of the oldest MacBook air types supported by Monterey (early 2015 MacBook Air) and it runs quite Okay. Install went good with no problems (but I have a original Apple SSD inside of my MacBook)


My software is working fine but if you are in the middle of prodcutions I reccommend to postpone the update till you have time to do it.

Jul 5, 2022 6:06 PM in response to Ben Low

Ben Low wrote:

Is Monterey stable enough now to upgrade? My key working apps are FCPX, Compressor, Logic Audio, Pages, Numbers. Photos, Affinity Series: Photo, Publisher, Designer; MSOffice.

I'm in the middle of productions and don't want to suddenly have to spend days fixing issues in Monterey that are not issues in Big Sur (which I'm currently using).

Any suggestions?

Ben


There will always be issue in upgrading to a new macOS, it is naive to think otherwise. You are much better off staying current, not only for the new features but contemporary security updates.


Upgrading macOS without fear - Apple Support Communities




If you value your user data—

3-2-1 Backup Strategy: three copies of your data, two different methods, and one offsite.

More than one device, more than one backup methodology.



Jul 5, 2022 6:12 PM in response to melvinbyers

Thank you P. Phillips,


Terrific. Very much appreciated. And much to contemplate. And given that all I want to do is deliver a particular film going out on the festival circuit and then hit-the-road ... I'm printing out your instructions, and will keep them with me as I drive across the continent. When I'm installed on the shore of the blue Pacific and soaking my brain every day in the blue briny, I will do all you suggest and upgrade my System. Carefully.


Thank you kindly again .. Ben


And thank you too melvinbyers and leroydouglas, very helpful suggestions, both encouraging, and good suggestions. I try to triple back up everything. Different ways. And at least one off site.

Jul 6, 2022 7:11 AM in response to WheelieNick

Good to hear WheelieNick. I will eventually do the shift over. But I've decided to do a modest hunt and clean on this setup, to get rid of what Tom calls 'chaff'. And instead of spending two weeks bumping over to Monterey and re-installing a thousand apps ... I'm going to hit the highway in the sun and do 'wheelies' all the way to BC (from Montreal).

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Big Sur to Monterey -- is it time to upgrade??

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.