Cut and Paste for Remote Work on Mac is Driving me Crazy!

So I switched to a Mabook M1 as my main machine about 6 months ago from Windows and overall I like it. However, cut and paste when remoting into client machines is driving me nuts. Because Apple (for some insane reason) uses different key combinations for cut and paste so when I cut and paste locally versus remote, I have to remember to use different combinations whether local or remote (IE. Control P, Command P).


I have tried remapping the copy and paste keys on the Mac to match Windows but when I connect remotely, it switches them on the remote side and I have to use the reverse combination on the remote system. It sounds trivial but it really slows work down.


Is there anyway to get cut, copy and paste to work with the same key combinations both locally and remotely? I mainly remote into Windows machines. I just want copy and paste to use the same key combinations whether local or remotely connected.


Anyone know how to make this happen?

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 12.4

Posted on Jul 12, 2022 4:22 PM

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Aug 3, 2022 4:49 AM in response to smcca945

smcca945 wrote:

Because Apple (for some insane reason) uses different key combinations for cut and paste so when I cut and paste locally versus remote, I have to remember to use different combinations whether local or remote (IE. Control P, Command P).

It’s the other way around. It was Apple that introduced cut, copy, and paste, as well as a set of standard keystrokes across all apps, decades ago. It was another one of those ideas they got from Xerox PARC.


It was the PC that screwed up the idea and always has different shortcuts.

I have tried remapping the copy and paste keys on the Mac to match Windows

I recommend going the other way. You will find it easier to remap these on Windows. Because there are so many different shortcuts, it is generally easier to remap those on Windows. Any remote control software should give you an option to remap the Mac command key to something on whatever remote you are using.

Aug 1, 2022 12:02 PM in response to smcca945

There were two distinct articles (one Apple's, other Microsoft) that had info

which could be used to access from either direction: BootCamp to Windows

and/or using Apple's older key-equivalents, directly or indirectly in a PC.

[The GUI began with keyboard shortcuts to expand usefulness with Apple.]


• Keyboard mappings using a PC keyboard on a Macintosh | microsoft

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/keyboard-mappings-using-a-pc-keyboard-on-a-macintosh-d4fd87ca-8762-30ee-fcde-08ffe95faea3


• Use your Apple keyboard in Windows with Boot Camp - Apple Support

//support.apple.com/en-us/HT202676


The interface for using 'window-based' keyboards with graphic user interface

~ seems to have evolved w/ Apple earlier than PC adoption. Early Apple starts

from an early concept. ~ "Windows" seems to have varied, it arrived after Mac.

(newer Apple silicon varies in how BootCamp may not present itself useful)


• Use function keys on a Mac keyboard in Windows with Boot Camp - Apple Support

//support.apple.com/guide/bootcamp-control-panel/use-function-keys-on-a-mac-keyboard-bcmp423a8bcd/mac


See also

Get started with Boot Camp Control Panel on Mac

Troubleshoot Boot Camp Control Panel problems on Mac

• Apple Support article: Use your Apple Keyboard in Windows with Boot Camp

Apple Support article: How to use function keys on MacBook Pro with Touch Bar


Apple 'keyboard shortcuts' pre-date Mac. Useful, across different topography.

With different backgrounds; each presents themselves, with a varied history.


Aug 3, 2022 2:49 AM in response to smcca945

Note: instructions cited, are for Keyboard use, only.

Both sides of the same coin; from either direction.


To avoid need to consider Re-mapping PC/Mac Keyboards.

{..I'm aware of M1/M2 and had also read your post, too..}


..Worst you may need, get an adapter; USB-A to USB-C

and use wired keyboard. Not specific to Apple Silicon

or Windows CPU. The reply suggests a misguided call..


..Never was the above a suggestion to try or use BootCamp..


The keyboard you use for macOS ~ Can also be used for Windows.

Windows keys on a Mac keyboard - Apple Support

Instructions are only for keyboard use, only; and either direction.


This does not require re-programming of the Mac, or the keys.

And has nothing to do with which processor chip the Mac has.


~ So this was an exercise in lateral thinking: to use one tool

(keyboard) designed for Windows or Mac, for either or other.


[Another method may be to try & see how the Mac handles

the Windows PC keyboard. ~ Examples may cite old articles.]


This is why examples are provided, & show oversampling.

see: "Mac Equivalents of Windows Keys" +other articles.


Aug 8, 2022 3:23 PM in response to etresoft

I have tried remapping keys but it ends up breaking cut and paste on the remote side. For example, if I remap cut and paste to the CONTROL key from the standard APPLE key, when I try to use it when connected remote, it simply doesn't work. I know it sounds trivial but cut and paste is a huge part of my day as I am remoted into IT systems all day long and it just slows me down so much. Trying to get your mind used to switching between key sets to cut and paste slows everything down.


Furthemore, I just can't seem to get used to how to switch between windows in Mac OS because it's so inconsistent between apps. For example, if I have Outlook open with 5 emails, on the Windows machine I just hit ALT-TAB and select what I want. On the Mac, it only shows the app and not all the emails so I then have to up arrow to see the other windows to select from.


I guess my point being is I end up going back to Windows because I can work so much faster on the Windows OS because it's consistent with windows switching and I don't have the cut and paste issues. I have really been trying to move completely to the Mac OS due to the reliability and battery life on the laptop. I generally like the Mac OS much better and it's super stable but these small issues just make it so much slower.


Also, another annoying issue is when I reboot or boot up the machine and have my docking station connected via the USB port, sometimes it displays the login screen on my external monitors and sometimes I have to open the cover and enter the password until the external monitors turn on for display.


I bought the M1 with the intention of using it as my primary and only computer and using the WIndows machine just for games. For 6 months, I didn't allow myself to fall back to the Windows computer to force myself to learn it. However, due to all the cumulative issues, I have gone back to Windows for day to day work because it's just so much faster to move around in the OS.


I wish this was not the case because like I said, I love the Mac OS look/feel and stability. I just wish Apple would take into account these problems and find a fix or solution to the above issues so people like be (IE. Power users who work on alot of systems) don't struggle so much with these issues. Maybe the Mac won't work for me other than using the laptop for the battery life when I travel.


It's so frustrating because I love Mac OS and love the laptop! I wish I could find a way around these issues!


Scott


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