Dragging a photo in Photoshop opens in small size, and not its actual size (?)

I recently upgraded my OS from OSX to Monterey. And also from Photoshop CS3 to CC.


In the past one could drag a photo directly from Photos into Photoshop and it would open at its actual size.


But just now I noticed that it only opens in a much reduced size (886x886). Why is this?

How can I get it to open in actual size (3024x3024)?


Also the colour profile is Display P3 - I'm sure it never used to be this.


Any help much appreciated, thank you.

iMac 27″, macOS 12.6

Posted on Oct 18, 2022 7:11 AM

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Posted on Oct 19, 2022 8:39 AM

"I just want to know why it's now opening at such a reduced size?"


When you drag a photo from Photos to an external editor, you are sending the current preview to the editor, as OT already pointed out. The quality and filename of the current preview will depend on may things, on the version of Photos you are using, on the pixel size of the original, on the codec of the original, or if the photos already been edited externally.

For example, if the image is small and has no external edits, the original may be used as the preview. If the image is large, Photos may create a smaller preview; if the image is a AW file and has been edited on an iPhone, the small embedded jpeg preview may have been used on the iPhone to edit the image and the image will have been downsized. Dragging and dropping to transfer the photo to an external editor is a game of chance.


To open your image in Photoshop you could also select the image in Photos and use "Image > Open in ..." and then select Photoshop in the menu that will appear.


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Oct 19, 2022 8:39 AM in response to Abstractman23

"I just want to know why it's now opening at such a reduced size?"


When you drag a photo from Photos to an external editor, you are sending the current preview to the editor, as OT already pointed out. The quality and filename of the current preview will depend on may things, on the version of Photos you are using, on the pixel size of the original, on the codec of the original, or if the photos already been edited externally.

For example, if the image is small and has no external edits, the original may be used as the preview. If the image is large, Photos may create a smaller preview; if the image is a AW file and has been edited on an iPhone, the small embedded jpeg preview may have been used on the iPhone to edit the image and the image will have been downsized. Dragging and dropping to transfer the photo to an external editor is a game of chance.


To open your image in Photoshop you could also select the image in Photos and use "Image > Open in ..." and then select Photoshop in the menu that will appear.


Oct 19, 2022 8:48 AM in response to Abstractman23

Not sure I fully understand - but you can just simply drag and drop the PS-edited file back into Photos. That's what I've always done.


So, in effect, what you have been doing is exporting a Preview, editing that in Photoshop and then re-importing the edited preview as a new image. Leonie and OT have detailed the complications of working with Previews.


Using the Edit In command a full quality version is sent to Photoshop and you can edit it, then (as detailed by OT) save it back to Photos. Then the link between the original image and the edited version is maintained, you see only one icon in Photos - and that reflects the edits you made - and you can still revert to the original.

Oct 18, 2022 9:22 AM in response to Abstractman23

You're getting the preview version of the image instead of the full sized original. Try holding down the Option key while dragging the thumbnail to Photoshop.


If you want the edited version to show in your Photos library you need to do what Yer_Man suggested and save it in the same format, i.e. jpg or gif or tiff as the original. If you safe it as a Photoshop file, .psd, the library will not know it's been edited. So if you start with a jpg, flatten the edit and save as a jpg.


NOTE: Photoshop will save as a jpeg when the original was listed as jpg. This also is something to avoid.


Oct 19, 2022 8:19 AM in response to Abstractman23

I think the best way to do it is File>Export>Export 1 Photo (SHIFT+APPLE+E).

This gives you exporting options that are useful, like 8/16 bit, colour profiles, size, format etc.


It depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you want to export an image, work on it on Photoshop and then save it somewhere else, or even re-import it to Photos as a new image, then this is a good way to work. Though you might consider why you're using a parametric editor and databased photo manager as a file manager for PhotoShop. Bridge is a far more simple application for that, being as it is a file manager for Photoshop..


If, on the other hand, you're trying to use Photoshop as an external editor, where the image is sent from Photos to PS and you then want the edited version saved back into Photos, then my way is the only way to do that.

Oct 20, 2022 3:55 AM in response to Abstractman23

Back since iPhoto days, D&D yielded the preview image. The preview is designed for sharing in most circumstances - sending an email to mother, adding a photo to a document, uploading to a website, that sort of thing. It is there to save the user the trouble of exporting every single time. Basically it's a mid quality, mid size, good-enough-for-most-things version of the shot. That's all.

Oct 19, 2022 3:42 AM in response to Old Toad

Try holding down the Option key while dragging the thumbnail to Photoshop.


Thanks but this makes no difference.


Very strange: I just realised that some photos are opening at different random sizes when I drag into Photoshop.

Please see these two photos which were taken within minutes of each other. The 100% sizes are totally different and random!

I'm starting to think this a Photoshop problem as opposed to a Mac one...


They also have very strange file names - not the corrrect ones: IMG_9438.JPG, IMG_9428.JPG



Oct 19, 2022 11:02 AM in response to Abstractman23

No, when I'm working on important images I use this method of exporting (see screenshot) - then edit in PS, then bring it back into Photos. That works fine for me.


If that works fine for you, and you're happy with the result, then good for you. I was simply pointing out that you're not using the software as intended or at its most efficient. But you're happy.


But since upgrading to Monterey and Adobe CC, the files never open at full 3024x3024 size. I get sizes like 1773x1773, or even 886x886.


Are these display sizes? As in, does the full size image get exported when you drag and drop? If so, then your issue is with Photoshop. Or is the actual product of the drag and drop reduced in size?

Oct 19, 2022 11:19 PM in response to Abstractman23

It looks like what's going over in this version is the Preview. You're nt going to be able to change that.


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What I meant my not using the app as intended is that these manager applications are designed to maintain a relationship between the master image and the versions derived from it. Your system breaks that link. It's not important to you, but it might go someway to explain why this change has come about.


If you have the current version of Photoshop, doesn't that mean you also have Lightroom? Mind you, that wouldn't suggest using drag and drop either.

Oct 19, 2022 8:58 AM in response to Yer_Man

Thanks for the reply.


No, when I'm working on important images I use this method of exporting (see screenshot) - then edit in PS, then bring it back into Photos. That works fine for me.


If I need to make a very quick basic edit I just drag and drop from Photos into PS.

With CS3 and El Capitan's version of Photos, the image would always open at full size (3024x3024).


But since upgrading to Monterey and Adobe CC, the files never open at full 3024x3024 size. I get sizes like 1773x1773, or even 886x886.


All I want to kow is why, now, after upgrading, the file sizes are never full size - and how to get the drag+drop method to open in full size. If that's even possible?



Oct 19, 2022 4:15 PM in response to Yer_Man

If that works fine for you, and you're happy with the result, then good for you. I was simply pointing out that you're not using the software as intended or at its most efficient. But you're happy.


Thanks for the reply.

Sorry you've lost me. How is this not using the software as intended? Genuine question.


As in, does the full size image get exported when you drag and drop? If so, then your issue is with Photoshop. Or is the actual product of the drag and drop reduced in size?


No, that's the whole issue. I am not getting full actual size when I drag and drop into Photoshop.

3024x3024 is actual full size of the photo. When I open (drag on drop in CC Photoshop), the size of the image is smaller, and never the full size of 3024x3024. I get sizes like 1773x1773, or even 886x886.

People on the Adobe forum are saying this is an Apple problem, and you are saying this is a Photoshop problem...

Oct 19, 2022 4:23 PM in response to léonie

Thanks, good to know. I wonder why Apple has changed this behaviour.


But this is not how it used to be. I'm not sure why this is such an issue, seeing as I have been doing this for many years on OSX and CS3.

All I want is for the drag and drop method to open in full size (!) Something pretty basic, does not make logical sense to me.

A 3024x3024 image should open at that same size in PS, and not a smaller random size.


I just had a look, and a dragged+dropped image is located in this folder called "derivatives". I've never seen this before:


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