Do NOT update to macOS Ventura

“Last I tried, the USB install method did work, since the T2 chips. Are you installing on an older MacBooks or does it actually still work? Have not tried on M1s. May have to revisit.”

To boot from usb on a T2 mac, you first need to start from recovery and run the Startup Security Utility. There you need to change the security level to allow external booting. I believe the M1 macs may be similar but I don’t have one to confirm.

kinehora wrote:

Would not transfer data from old IMac to my new one. Then, many aggravating little things. Like losing rules in mail. Not picking up previous mouse actions. Calendar missing some appointments. And more little things.

There is a substantial difference between migrating everything (potentially BAD), and migrating your user accounts (what I always do). With the latter, you get all your mail (rules included), all your documents, music, videos, photos, preferences - exactly as they were.

Then install the applications and you have a clean system with all of your content.

Nope. Norton Security still won't run under Ventura. Norton asks for full disk access, I've got all of the buttons reset and rebooted several times -- still won't load.

The simplest and safest way to upgrade the macOS is to create a new Partition/Volume (around a minute) with Disk Utility and install Ventura on that.

You can then check whether your apps are working as expected.

I installed Ventura on as separate SSD and started testing my applications by opening each one to see if there were any issues. What I found was that five of them require Rosetta to run. One of those I use a lot. I contacted the developer and they are suppose to have a major update by the end of the year although the person I talked with did not know if it would run natively on Ventura or not.

The other four rarely get used so I am not worried about running them in Rosetta. I expect at least two of those will get updates at some point as they are utilities.

Am staying with Monterey for now.

Unfortunately, idiot that I am, I did not listen and went ahead with the Ventura upgrade. Now FCPX plugins are all not working plus I see there is a Pro Video Formats update and I am getting the 'digital signatures on the update is missing or invalid.' In short, big doo doo for me right now.

**edit**

To be more precise, none of the plugins are 'loading'. Also, I cannot delete rendered files on a project. And finally, FCPX will not quit, I have to force quit. Fun.

Tom Wolsky wrote:

This is a new operating system so it should be treated as such, not just a regular system update. Treat it as if it’s a new computer that you just bought. For a new system you should always do a clean wipe of the drive and a new install. You do this with the full installer for the OS. 

I've never done this (going back to System 7) and never had any issues updating.

FWIW: I updated my (relatively) new Mac Studio to Ventura pretty much the day it came out and I have experienced no negative issues running Final Cut Pro. I consider myself a power user, as most of the projects I work on are 90-minutes to 2-hours in length and have many, many layers of composited graphics and text, usually resulting in thousands of clips on the timeline. So complex, in fact, are my routine projects, I've recently modified my workflow somewhat (this was a change I made while I was still using an M1 MacMini that only had 8 GB of Unified Memory) where I produce each segment of the show in its own discreen timeline, export each segment separately as a ProRes file, and then re-assemble it on a "full show" timeline for final export. My plug-ins all load as expected (even when I'm in the original assembly phase of the workflow), and I've had no problems opening or quitting the application, and no issues exporting/sharing a project.

Knock on wood.

Randy Brown

Why would you want to install norton?!!!

This is one of the worst “security” pieces if junk you could inflict on your mac.

Effective defenses against malware and other threats: https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

Ian R. Brown wrote:

I thought the explosion of Krakatoa was dramatic but Ventura puts it in the shade.

And that, students, is an example of a figure of speech we call "hyperbole"...

Sure, there are bugs, but you make it sound like it is a catastrophic release...

I did a clean install, then installed the software I need, and I find it overall not much different than Monterey.

Tried deleting preferences, rebooting into Safe mode, then into Recovery with a First Aid run, then tried renaming and naming back the templates folder… nada. My plugins are stuck in loading limbo. None of the plugins, none, will load. Tried reinstalling a couple and nothing. And FCPX still will only quit with a Forced Quit. Thanks Ventura. Wish I would have read Tom’s post and thought it through first :-( My bad.

Just to put my money where my mouth is, I did precisely that.

I created a new volume on my 2017 27" iMac in about ten seconds and installed (a previously downloaded) Ventura on it in just over 20 minutes.

I was somewhat surprised at the speed of installation as I am sure that similar clean installs have taken closer to an hour.