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Kernel panic loop prevents boot (after attempted Ventura installation to external disk)

I have a Mac mini (2018) running Monterey 12.2.1. In order to test Ventura, I attempted to install Ventura to an external disk. This resulted in a kernel panic boot loop at the very end of the installation process (final reboot). I had noticed the same problem when trying to apply a Monterey update: Monterey 12.3.1 boot failure - "Operation… - Apple Community.


Any suggestions?


- Pie Lover


Posted on Oct 24, 2022 1:41 PM

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Oct 26, 2022 4:34 AM in response to Barney-15E

I created a bootable installer for Ventura 13.0, erased the OS volume group on the external drive, and installed a fresh copy of Ventura (no user software installed). I observed the exact same behaviour. A kernel panic is generated during the initial boot which restarts, generates another panic, and so on.


So there is definitely a problem macOS booting an unmodified Ventura installation (also observed with Monterey 12.3+) using a Mac mini (2018) with a Samsung T5 external SSD. How can I tell whether it's really an OS issue or, alternatively, an incompatibility with the external drive (with works perfectly well with Monterey 12.2.1)?


- Pie Lover

P.S. The bootable installer took many hours to complete

Oct 26, 2022 7:04 AM in response to Barney-15E

Exactly. I wanted to install Ventura on an external drive so that I could experiment with new features and confirm the compatibility with my existing software (mostly standard titles).


I haven't tried installing Ventura on the internal SSD (currently Monterey 12.2.1) since it is such a pain to revert the OS to a previous version.


BTW, I just tried changing the Startup Security to the lowest level but the behaviour was the same (I set it back to medium).


I suspect that this problem is somehow related to the Mac mini's (2018) use of the T2 Security Chip. It seems that there was a change introduced Monterey 12.3 (and later versions) which prevents the use of (at least) the Samsung T5 SSD.


- Pie Lover

Oct 30, 2022 7:00 AM in response to BlueberryLover

Only an opinion but as was discovered in versions of Monterey12.3.1 and above - installing to an External Drive is problematic.


It would be reasonable to infer the same applies to Ventura macOS 13.0


Have seen at last 2 Users with qualifying Ventura Computer but with After Market Drive replacements and Ventura 13.0 will not install period.


Attempting to an external drive, regardless of installing to Internal Drive before hand still remains problematic at best.

Oct 31, 2022 6:45 AM in response to HWTech

Thank you for taking the time to provide such a detailed response. Unfortunately, I don't have a second machine to run Configurator.


You raise an interesting point about chipset differences within the same SSD model. I do have another Samsung T5 SDD which I could try. On the other hand, Monterey 12.2.1 installs perfectly well on the the SSD that has an issue with Ventura.


The T5 has a USB-C connector. I connect the SSD to a Thunderbolt/USB-C port on the Mac mini (2018). This configuration enables a maximum transfer rate of 10 Gbps using USB 3.1 Gen 2 (aka USB 3.2). I haven't tried the USB-A interface on the Mac side.


Last night, I installed Ventura on the internal drive. As expected, booting Ventura from an internal drive worked normally. I re-tested booting Ventura from the external drive which results kernel panic boot loop with SIP enabled (as before).


I would consider purchasing another model of external SSD if I could be sure that I could install macOS on it.


- Pie Lover



Kernel panic loop prevents boot (after attempted Ventura installation to external disk)

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