How to "allow" 3rd party apps in Ventura 13.0?

sincerus wrote:

You have to know how to 'turn on' this option via CLI commands. Open up a Terminal window and type the following:

sudo spctl --master-disable

Now if you go to Privacy and Security in the Settings area you will see an option for "Open Anyway".

As a software developer I hope that don't take this away.

Or, you can just ctrl-click on the app and choose "Open"

You have to know how to 'turn on' this option via CLI commands. Open up a Terminal window and type the following:

sudo spctl --master-disable

Now if you go to Privacy and Security in the Settings area you will see an option for "Open Anyway".

As a software developer I hope that don't take this away.

Mvrtin wrote:

To display the allow button you're looking for you'd need to disable the system integrity protection which you can do in recovery mode using the terminal prompt "csrutil disable".

People reading this should be aware that bad things can happen with SIP disabled even without malicious intent. A few years ago a simple Google Chrome update kept Macs from booting...those Macs had SIP disabled, systems which kept SIP enabled did not have this issue:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/no-it-wasnt-a-virus-it-was-chrome-that-stopped-macs-from-booting/

If a developer is no longer supporting an app, then either keep an old supported system available, or run it in a VM. Or it is time to find another app to replace it which is supported on the OS you are running. Disabling macOS security protections can result in unpredictable behavior which may be hard to troubleshoot. Of course people are free to do as they want, but they should be aware of the risks and accept the responsibility of their decisions.

I've tried installing multiple third party apps in Ventura and had no problems doing so as the button to "Allow" always appeared in the Security & Privacy Settings. This even worked for third party apps which included drivers. I tried apps from developers that were not part of the Apple developer program.

Of course I have had problems over the years getting third party apps to work because macOS does not always display the "Allow" button. My guess is the developer is doing something wrong when developing their apps for macOS, but it may also be the quirky nature of macOS as I have seen a lot of macOS quirks.

Like @Barney-15E says, Conrtol-clicking or Right-clicking an app to open it the first time is the most reliable method of making sure the app gets approved by macOS Gatekeeper. If you still have a problem, reboot the Mac. If you still have a problem, then reboot the Mac in Safe Mode and try Control-clicking or Right-clicking the app to open it. You may still need to reboot the Mac and boot into Safe Mode a second time. If Safe Mode works, then it means you have some other third party software installed which is interfering with the normal operation of macOS such as anti-virus apps, cleaning/optimizer apps, or third party security software.

If you still cannot run the app, then you need to contact the app's developer for assistance and to make sure the app is compatible with Ventura. Also, Ventura as an update to 13.0.1 so make sure you have this update installed as well.

IkechukwuNwanze wrote:

This revealed the "Anywhere" radio button. Tried it for Bluestacks and Nox Player but no luck. Will keep digging for a solution. Thanks for the tip though.

@etresoft posted earlier that Bluestacks is not compatible with Ventura or even Monterey in this post earlier in this very thread:

How to "allow" 3rd party apps in Ventura … - Apple Community

Have you checked with the developr of Nox Player to confirm it is actually officially supported with Ventura? Nox Player is not supported on M1/M2 Apple Silicon Macs. I see nothing on their website confirming Ventura compatibility on Intel Macs. Make sure you are not running any anti-virus apps, cleaning/optimizer apps, or third party security software which interferes with the normal operation of macOS. Otherwise you should contact the Nox Player developers for assistance with installing it on Ventura as the issue is most likely with the Nox Player app itself.

Ventura 13.0.1 seems to have re-enabled the ability to click right on the app, select "open" and then after the "broken" message have the option to open it anyway. So Apple fixed it (silently since I don't recall this being in the 13.0.1 release notes!).

Bradford W. Miller wrote:

Ventura 13.0.1 seems to have re-enabled the ability to click right on the app, select "open" and then after the "broken" message have the option to open it anyway. So Apple fixed it (silently since I don't recall this being in the 13.0.1 release notes!).

That option was never removed.

HWTech wrote:

The one user did mention the software was installing a driver. I don't install many apps utilizing drivers, so I forget how I've handled it in the past.

Hasn't changed any.

I know a couple of times it was not straight forward even when the "Allow exception" button was available in the Gatekeeper Security settings (the button did not always show up). I believe I may have once approved the driver by right-clicking or Control-clicking the actual installed app, but that was a while ago so I don't recall. I know that at least two times I had to reboot multiple times and approve the driver multiple times before macOS accepted the configuration. I know that sometimes the driver portion of the install must be approved separately. Not sure if this was due to Gatekeeper/macOS or how the developer released/packaged the app & driver.

In most (all?) cases, this is due to a poorly written 3rd party driver. You only get 30 minutes to approve the extension. If you wait too long, or if the app doesn't nag you, then it goes away. An app can try to load it again and give you another 30 minutes, but if it was last touched in 2009, as most of them were, it isn't going to do that.

In this case, the explanation is much simpler. BlueStacks simply doesn't support Ventura. It doesn't even support Monterey or M1.

lesliepillay wrote:

1. I'm trying to play Bluestacks games on my iMac, on which I recently installed OS 13.0 Ventura. On starting the game now, I'm asked to accept extensions in System Settings. However in the System Settings > Security section, I see only 2 choices for "Allow applications downloaded from":

App Store

2. App Store and identified developers

In previous OS versions, an extra option to "Allow" or "open anyway" would appear if the app I want to run does not meet these requirement. But with Ventura this extra option doesn't appear.

How do I solve this problem?

see if there is anything here:

Change Extensions preferences on Mac - Apple Support

>System Settings>Extensions

James Dylan wrote:

I agree, this is horrible! I need to install the Greatdy Computer Audio Device Driver and it won't allow me! Come on, Apple, I paid $4000+ for this new Mac Studio and you aren't allowing me to install trusted (by me) software on my own device? I own this computer, and I want to install this software, it's that simple. And you are blocking me? Are we in lawsuit territory yet?

Who are we suing? Apple or Apple's users? The feature described by the OP was always the wrong and most complicated way to do this.

If you want to install something, something that you trust, or something that you shouldn't, you can always override Apple's productions. Just right-click or control-click on the thing you want to run and choose "Open" from the context menu.

etresoft wrote:

If you want to install something, something that you trust, or something that you shouldn't, you can always override Apple's productions. Just right-click or control-click on the thing you want to run and choose "Open" from the context menu.

The one user did mention the software was installing a driver. I don't install many apps utilizing drivers, so I forget how I've handled it in the past. I know a couple of times it was not straight forward even when the "Allow exception" button was available in the Gatekeeper Security settings (the button did not always show up). I believe I may have once approved the driver by right-clicking or Control-clicking the actual installed app, but that was a while ago so I don't recall. I know that at least two times I had to reboot multiple times and approve the driver multiple times before macOS accepted the configuration. I know that sometimes the driver portion of the install must be approved separately. Not sure if this was due to Gatekeeper/macOS or how the developer released/packaged the app & driver.

I find with older versions of macOS it is much easier to Control-click on the app and manually select "Open" for the first time launching a third party app. This will cause macOS to provide a pop-up prompt to confirm you want to grant macOS to run the app. I find this is much easier than going into System Preferences to click "Allow" when many times I was never even presented with the option.

However, if the app includes any extensions, then you will need to follow the suggestion of @leroydouglas.

I had seen another post where I believe the person said the option/button to "allow" was just before or after the Filevault options. It was a very tiny entry/button that did not indicate the specific app asking for permission. I'm not certain what this button or link was called, but it will likely appear more generalized and won't mention any specific app asking for permission.

James Dylan wrote:

Fine, but your answer still doesn't acknowledge the fact that it appears Apple removed the option from previous versions to click "install all". Only Apple and "verified apps".

That option was removed several years ago and is not something new with Ventura, but I don't recall in which version of macOS it first was removed. Apple keeps increasing the security measures of macOS with each release. It really would not surprise me if Apple stopped allowing unsigned & unverified apps to be installed at some point. I'm actually surprised it hasn't already happened.