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Spotlight Search not working on Mac after Ventura Update

Spotlight (Search) not working after installing Ventura on an iMac 27" 2017. Any suggestions?


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iMac 27″ 5K, macOS 13.0

Posted on Nov 5, 2022 1:56 AM

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Posted on Jan 25, 2023 2:09 PM

hi I have been reading many posts over the pas three weeks and getting into technical steps like making sudo commands in the terminal app, re indexing blah blah creating an additional user etc but reading the below tip of just click and HOLD the Spotlight icon for a few seconds and it pops back to the centre. how weirdly simple and it worked for me. thank you. it was driving me nuts


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Nov 5, 2022 12:01 PM in response to Frank6284

I'm having a similar issue with searching a network folder, by using the search box in finder. Previously I could open the network folder in finder and then type something in the search box and it would find the items. Now I just get the spinning wheel in the bottom right (leave it long enough and it will crash finder). I've still got a machine on V12 and that is still working fine, so it must be something to do with Ventura.

Nov 14, 2022 10:11 AM in response to Frank6284

I had this same issue. If you get a message stating that indexing is disabled, you will need to re-enable it. You can do so with the following command:


sudo mdutil -i on /


This will enable indexing on the entire volume. It returned that indexing was enabled. I did not have to run the command with -E / as it began rebuilding the index immediately. You may or may not have to run the previously mentioned command after you run this one.


My machine is now indexing properly and Spotlight is showing me the expected items.

Nov 18, 2022 2:34 PM in response to Frank6284

I have a problem in that Spotlight and search in folders or in Mail does not work since I installed 13.0.1. It is not the window location. Spotlight comes up but when I search only applications show up. And Yes I have Spotlight set to search almost everywhere.


In this image I typed Mac and this is what shows.

If I type in the search of a finder window I can search for files appropriately either in a folder or on my entire mac.

Again if I type in the finder window for this Mac I get thousands of things.

On the other hand search in mail does nothing. Just no response. I have rebuilt mailboxes etc. Mail search just does nothing except show me three recent searches (which yielded nothing)until I type then nothing happens.

Nov 21, 2022 5:39 AM in response to Bruce

Same for me. I feel like the software quality control at Apple is getting worse...I also tried everything you mentioned and nothing...


Please all make sure to submit feedback via the "Feedback Assistant" app provided by Apple so that they see that there are more and more people facing the same issue. So far my feedback says that there are no other cases which is obviously not the case. So please submit your feedback via the app to get Apple pay attention to this.

Nov 22, 2022 6:04 AM in response to iPhils

So I created a new user and tried Spotlight after reindexing. It works quite well although "Safari" (the app) cannot be found via Spotlight but all other results are back including the search inside the "Mail" app. Not sure if it will stay like that but at least for me it looks like it might be connected to the user. Now I will try to find out which Spotlight files/settings are bound to a specific user in order to see if I can get it fixed for the original user as well.

Nov 23, 2022 11:28 AM in response to Bruce

@Bruce: That's an exact description of my system's behavior – Spotlight search on the desktop will not find any files/file contents or e-mails whatsoever.


The following steps did not make a difference at all:


_ Turning off all search categories in System Preferences and turning them on again after restart.

_ Shift-start of Mail (as search doesn't work there either).

_ Reindexing Spotlight by terminal command.

_ Reinstall of MacOS (although not from a usb drive).

_ Force-quitting "corespotlightd" via Activity Monitor.

_ Adding a folder to the privacy settings and removing it afterwards.


I'm quite desperate what to do next ... Any suggestions?


Regards, André

Jan 25, 2023 6:17 PM in response to peterbickerton

Peter - There are two separate issues on this thread. One is with people who have lost their Spotlight window. And yes, simply holding the Spotlight icon resets the window to the center of the screen.


However, the other issue is far more complicated, and does NOT have a simple solution: the Spotlight index failing to index one or more drives, so a Spotlight search returns zero results when searching your files. As you can imaging, trying to find a file within literally terrabytes of data is virtually impossible without a viable search engine. Fortunately, there are utilities that don't rely on the Spotlight index -- I'm now using "Find Any File", which seems to work, but it's not nearly as fast or convenient as a Spotlight search

Spotlight Search not working on Mac after Ventura Update

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