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WiFi on MBP with M1 Pro periodically disconnects

Since upgrading to 12.6, my 16" M1 Macbook Pro periodically drops wifi connection. By dropping, I mean it starts searching for a connection, and then after a few seconds, it comes back.


My signal is 2-3 bars consistently. I'm in the same location I've been in for the last year (with no problem before). I stick to the 5GHz band because the 2.4 is too slow with so many other devices in range.


I've removed the WiFi device from the list of network adapters, and re-added it. I've rebooted. I've tried running the WiFi diagnostic tool, but it just gives me an option to create a massive confusing and unhelpful report.


Does anyone have any experience with this? Does this seem like a hardware issue? I believe I'm about 1 week out of warranty! I can't deal with this frequent disconnect problem, it interrupts my entire flow, as I'm working on remote systems and these all disconnect. Hoping to know if there's something I can look for in system logs to explain what is happening.

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Posted on Nov 15, 2022 5:54 PM

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Nov 18, 2022 11:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

OK, more updates.


I ran without safe mode for a while, and the problem started happening again.


It's now consistently at 2 bars wifi signal.


Switched back to safe mode, and ran for 2 days. And now it's happening. I haven't used my VPN in that time, on purpose, so it's not the VPN.


Here is a screenshot of it when it's doing its search:



And here is when it's connected:



BTW, my phone hotspot is off, I think it's just showing up because my phone is nearby and it has the same apple id (must be a bluetooth thing).


Would appreciate any further help. I'm to the point where I might just reinstall the whole thing, and restore from backup...

Nov 18, 2022 2:55 PM in response to schveiguy2

if your computer were right next to your Router, the raw signal level (RSSI) would typically be in the range of -50 or closer to zero, like -45.


When RSSI declines to lower that -65 dB, your Mac actively searches for a better connection and prepares to switch.


Your RSSI of -70 at your current physical location is 5 db worse that the level at which Macs switch to a better connection, if one is available. There is too much distance or heavy construction between your Router and your Mac.


260 Mbits/sec is 64-patterns per signaling interval using one antenna on an 80 MHz pathway. If your signal were strong enough, more antennas could be used and more complex patterns could be supported on your 802.11ac (Wi-Fi-5 Router).


There is a very small possibility of a disconnected antenna. The test for that is to move your computer right next to your Router. If RSSI improves to about -50, your antennas are fine.

Nov 18, 2022 8:19 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

BTW, I have a suspicion why it started trying to find another wifi. I used to have both the 2.4G and the 5G bands as "auto-connect". but I would find my internet would start working poorly, so I would switch back to the 5G.


Finally, I disabled the 2.4G as auto-connect. What may have been happening is:


  1. signal goes below -65dB
  2. Mac wifi searches for a network that's better
  3. Sees the 2.4G at -58dB
  4. decides to try switching, but finds that the auto-join is off
  5. After giving up, goes back to the 5G


Just a guess though.

Nov 15, 2022 6:16 PM in response to schveiguy2

Wi-Fi is complex because it is not just whether your Wi-Fi is working by itself, but whether it is working in your 'network neighborhood'.


The first step is to run In Safe Mode and see if there is any change. Safe mode does not allow third-party add-ons to run automatically.


Next step is to hold the Option key while you click on the Wi-Fi icon on the menubar. choose Network Diagnostics and go through their suggestions. You do NOT need the diagnostic 'report' it wants to generate, which is a DUMP of every parameter that could possibly influence Network performance, for sending to an Apple Network specialist -- no human-readable information is included.


The next step is to copy or transcribe the snapshot shown at option Wi-Fi. Looks like this older one:



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Nov 18, 2022 5:54 PM in response to schveiguy2

<< why would it try switching when there's nothing else to switch to? >>


It will more strongly evaluate other networks, and consider switching. If there is no where else to go, it obviously can't switch.


You are using channel 161, which suggests that your lower channels in 5 GHZ and all of 2.4 GHZ are already crowded with your neighbor's devices. The higher-numbered channel your router chooses, the worse the signal drop off. and it will choose higher automatically because the lower ones are already filled with traffic.




.This 'spectrum' graph produced by Wi-fi explorer, and inexpensive utility with a brief free trial period.



Nov 18, 2022 5:55 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Oh! uhhh... that's my fault actually. My router doesn't do automatic channel switching on the 5GHz band. I was kind of desperate to try other things, so I switched to something high thinking it would be less crowded. I didn't realize that was going to cause issues.


These are my choices, which should I pick? Honestly, I can't remember what the default was.


Nov 15, 2022 7:59 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

One thing I have noticed pretty quickly -- the WiFi signal seems HIGHER with safe mode (consistently full fan vs. only 2 bars most of the time before). No change in physical position or anything else. Does safe mode do something different with the wifi?


Still no dropouts. I'll run like this for the rest of today, and then switch back tomorrow to see what happens.

Nov 18, 2022 4:30 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks for the explanations! Indeed, next to the router, it's -33 dB, and I also double checked the antenna are all connected.


Something I don't know how to explain is that my laptop has been in this same spot for a year, the router has been in its same spot for longer, and I've not had these disconnection problems. Switching to the 2.4Gz, I get better RSSI (-57 to -62 dB), but slower speeds (and I believe I have some rogue device or external interference on that band, because the Internet will just stop working on that band sometimes).


What I don't know is, why would it try switching when there's nothing else to switch to? Is it something that's different in the new version of MacOS? Perhaps there's a wifi that spikes occasionally and it thinks it will try that? I just cleared out all "known" WiFi logins so maybe that will help.


Looks like I need to find a USB ethernet port now! Or get a closer access point.


Thanks again!

Nov 18, 2022 6:03 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

The 2.4 GHz has an auto selection; the 5Ghz doesn't. That's the list I posted.


I selected 104 (DFS) and I got these warnings:


"You select a DFS channel, the channel will be changed automatically if any Radar is detected."


And then:


"To get the best wireless performance, NETGEAR recommends that you set the router to a high channel number (between 149~161). Are you sure you want to continue?"


So I guess I should pick 149?

Nov 18, 2022 6:21 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

In a not-crowded network neighborhood, the best reception will be on the lowest available channel, 36. On a slightly crowded network neighborhood, channel 48. beyond that, it gets to be a problem for a computer to figure out.


If you could select auto, every time your Router powers on, it samples the existing traffic it sees, then picks a channel that is least crowded. It is not an accident that the first step in every debugging procedure is "cycle the power to your Router".


if you manually select a channel that is already busy, performance will not be very good, but it should not drop out.

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