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I would appreciate your thinking about this and weighing in.


Since 2012 I had a 27in Intel chip IMac with 8 GB of memory. It was great until it began to be slow and I could not update it to the latest Apple OS.  During that time I wrote several books, did extensive on-line research, and stored everything on the computer including PDF books, a lot of images (no videos or movies). Frequently I had several apps open at the same time as I referred to them as I worked; Microsoft Word for Mac, Safari, Pages, Mail, and Reunion (a genealogy database app for Mac.) I Never had a problem.


This spring 2022 I bought a 24in M1 chip IMac with the same amount of memory  8GB. It seemed fine until I received a warning that my application memory was about to run out. I had Never seen that warning before on my previous iMac. 


I read information on this forum about this subject, and I did the things recommended. 

1. Removed unused apps, and large files, including those hidden attachments in Mail.

2. Stored everything in the cloud.

3. Bought CleanMyMac and ran that program to remove even more stuff.

4. Shut down the iMac each evening.


Even after doing this, I get warnings about not enough application memory.  A number of times I had to quit an app. to go on. And several times one or more of the apps would not respond. The 

most frequent Hang is Mail. After I quit Mail, (and other apps) I can not open Mail again unless I restart.  


So far I am not getting any help from Apple Support after 3 calls. One rep had me install a clean version of Ventura 13.0.1. One rep just said I made a mistake by buying the IMac with only 8 GB of memory. Not very nice. The Apple Mail app may be suspect since it is always the app that hangs. I intend to keep trying to get Apple to help, but I am not feeling very confident.  Is the M1 chip not as good as Intel? Is there a bug in Mail that so far Apple can not find? I have no problems with Mail on iPhone or iPad.


The apps listed above are all the same version that was on my previous Mac except Pages which came with the new machine. Pages does not seem to be a problem, since I have not used it much recently.


Activity Monitor mostly shows I am using about 7 of the 8 GB of memory.  If the apps  below are open here is the usage: AddressBookSourceSync 13 GB, WindowServer 852 MB, Word 201MB, Mail 58 MB, Safari 53 GB, Reunion 116 MB, Activity Monitor 49 MB. Everything else is under 38 and mostly under 25.   Cached Files 930 MB. The memory pressure graph is yellow/orange.


I can not figure this out. If the only suggestion from Apple about memory is to buy a computer with more than 8 GB - Then I suggest they do not offer an IMac with less than 16 GB. Of course once you commit, you can not add more memory.


Thank you all for your advice and review.

iMac 24″, macOS 13.0

Posted on Dec 14, 2022 10:58 AM

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Dec 14, 2022 11:05 AM in response to Vereda

I would first uninstall third party apps that claim to clean, protect, manage, boost performance, etc. CleanMyMac would be one such app.

Second, I agree that 8GB RAM is not sufficient to run several apps concurrently. I would not buy a computer today that had less than 32 GB RAM. 8GB RAM is likely sufficient for someone only checking email and browsing the Internet. You are doing more, and you are doing it concurrently.

Dec 14, 2022 11:21 AM in response to Vereda

Vereda wrote:

Interesting that you recommend uninstalling CleanMyMac.
What is your opinion on why I could easily do concurrent tasks with my 2012 27in iMac with 8GB but can not with my 2022 25" iMac with same 8GB of memory - even after removing a load of stuff?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Should have come here before I bought the new Mac. Sigh!

My opinion is that old apps/system software were not as RAM demanding as new apps/system software.

You can search these communities to see thousands of problems associated with installing third party cleaning apps. The MacOS manages the system very well with out the interference of unecessary, resource using, third party apps.

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