In Photos, names of imported files revert to the original name. Also, can't scroll with selected photos to rearrange order.

In Photos, when I import files, the images come through OK, but on many, the file name I assigned has reverted to the original name. Never happened before. The name I gave shows up in the Info window, but not under the photo in the album. I have thousands to load.


In View, I have selected the appropriate metadata, which has never been changed.


Also, for a long time now, when I've selected photos in an album to rearrange order, I can't scroll with them when selected..


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Posted on Jan 3, 2023 4:42 PM

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Jan 7, 2023 2:04 AM in response to briansahib

Brian, I looked again at your post from the 5th of January: In Photos, names of imported files revert… - Apple Community


You are showing two screenshots, in screenshot one you are saying the changed meta came through correctly, in the second not.

What is puzzling me, is that in both screenshots the info panel is clearly showing the correct filename. The filenames have been preserved. The problem is, that something has added titles in addition to the filenames. Pleas compare:

The second line of the Info is showing the filename -

  1. "New 093Colours ONC.jpg" for your first example
  2. "New2023Colours7.jpg" for your second example.

The filenames have been preserved for both images.


The only difference I can see, is that you are not seeing "New2023Colours7.jpg" below the thumbnail in the second example. That is not surprising, as the title is shown below the thumbnails, if a photo has a title. And you can see, that the second photo has a title - the title is not empty like for the first photo. The title "IMG_9209" is shown in the first line of the Info panel in the first line.

Erase the first line, and Photos should revert to using the filename below the thumbnail of this photo to show below the thumbnail.


The mystery remains, what has added the old filenames to the title fields of some of your photos. Photos does not do it - it must have been some third party software. I wish Photos would add filenames to the title field, I have to run an Apple Script to get it done.




Jan 4, 2023 8:13 AM in response to briansahib

When looking at thumbnails of pictures in an album, the Title, not the file name, is what appears under the photo.


When there is no title, Photos will display the file name, sort of grayer.


Did you change the file name, or add a title?


Scrolling with a selected picture is a bit of a trick. Using a trackpad, it's a game like Twister:

I click on the picture, move it a tad to get started, then, holding the "click" with my thumb, I scroll using two fingers. So that's using a thumb (for click) and two fingers (to scroll) all at the same time. You get used to it.

Jan 4, 2023 10:59 PM in response to briansahib

There is no way to assign a new filename in Photos for Mac. You can assign a title or a caption. But the filename of the imported file will remain the same.

Below the thumbnails you will see the filename, if no title has been assigned by you, or the title, if a photo has a title and if you have clicks the "Aspect" button, to show the photos in the correct Aspect Ration and not tiled as squares.


If you previously have assigned titles, but the titles are gone now, something is wrong.

  • You may have opened an older version of the Photos Library.
  • You may be viewing the photos in a shared album - shared albums do not support titles
  • Photos may have crashed before the changed titles could be saved
  • You may have used the tool to merge duplicates and Photos may have kept the version without a title (the titles are not merged, when merging duplicates)


Sorry, we have been cross posting. I did not see your additional information before I replied.


Jan 5, 2023 10:49 PM in response to briansahib

In your screenshots I can see, that you changed the filenames of the photos.


And in Photos some of the imported files are showing the changed filenames below the thumbnails, and these filenames are shown dimmed, in grey. You will see the filenames in grey below an image, if this image has no custom title. Only for photos without a custom title the filename will be used as a default title. In that case the info will show the line "Add a Title" as the first line.

Your other imported files, where you are not seeing the modified filename below the thumbnail, are showing the old file name in a bright white, not dimmed. If you are seeing bright titles below the thumbnails, these photos are having a custom title assigned. The line "IMG9209" or similar has been added to the title field in the Info as a custom title. As soon as a photo has a custom title, the filename is no longer used as a default title below the thumbnails. And the title will persist, embedded in the IPTC files of the image file, even if you export the image and change the filename in the Finder. Changing he filename does not modify the image specific IPTC tags. You have to erase the custom title "IMG9209" in the Info panel in Photos to get back to the filename as the title. Replace it in the Info in Photos by the title "New2023Colours7.jpg" you want to see.


I cannot tell from your description, why some of your images have an embedded title with the old filename. Have you used some third-party app to edit these photos?


Jan 4, 2023 11:05 PM in response to léonie

One more question - you mention the captions.

Photos has two text field where we can enter additional information.

  • The title field, the first line below the filename. This title will be shown below the thumbnails in Photos for Mac.
  • The caption field, previously called description. This field is not shown below the thumbnails on the Mac but the only information shown on the iPhone nd iPad, when we are viewing a photo enlarged.


I am always enter relevant information into both fields, so I can see it on the Mac and my iPhone and my iPad.


Jan 5, 2023 7:48 AM in response to briansahib


briansahib,


It's still not clear to me what's there and what's missing. Could you do a screenshot, sort of like mine above, showing the Info window and the thumbnail with the line underneath?


By the way, have you checked View>Metadata to make sure that what you want to see is checked?


You can also, just to see what's going on, try printing (or just looking at the screen) a contact sheet with titles and things:


To see this, use command-P, then select Contact Sheet and Captions to see the choices.

Jan 5, 2023 2:05 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

OK, here's the progression:


Note: Photos library is on external drive with plenty of space - has always worked perfectly.


  1. Photos to import (on my MacBook Pro).
  2. Import one photo, caption I added comes through OK.
  3. Others in the group imported. As you can see, the bottom two come through without my added captions. Has never happened before now, regardless of file type.
  4. Same, with version of Photos shown. Am current with 13.1, with no upgrades reported.






Thanks for sticking with this!


Brian

Jan 5, 2023 11:37 PM in response to léonie

Thanks. I'm pretty much aware of all that. The problem is, after thousands and thousands of imports, this has just started to happen. I've always put a descriptive caption with every image, and they've all gone through OK, except now.


And yes, as my screenshots show, my caption is there in the Info window - in the title line for the ones that come through OK, but for those that don't the title line is empty.


When importing, I never know which ones will be OK or those that won't. Having to go in an edit each one, when there are hundreds, is unacceptable, I think.


Once again, this is a new problem, and I wonder if others are having it.

Jan 6, 2023 3:08 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

I may not have all the terms correct, but I say 'reverted' because on SOME of the images that I now import, the file name I've applied to the image - one by one, done on my hard drive, as I deal with them as a matter of course - my written filename is gone, replaced by what the filename appeared to be before I've labeled it. That's how it appears to me.


Again, this is a situation that started only recently. Ifit's something I've done, am happy to fix, but again, I wonder if it's a 13.1 problem.


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