Photos Library Process for Backup

We have a really large Photos Library (21k photos) with family photos and multiple family members contributing with the Family Sharing.


Does anyone have a recommendation of a system to backup these photos and remove them from the library so that's it's not so cumbersome and large, syncing over all the devices? It doesn't necessarily have to be automated but we get wrapped around the axel of how to do this with such a large number of photos. We'd like to start archiving the years by Exporting photos, maintaining the file structure and metadata while also pulling them out of the library.


I think we can save off individual Photos Libraries (by year perhaps) but we're concerned that we will save these away and in 10 years we can no longer read them. So, we're thinking that individual files would be more robust over the years.


Is there a better way to think about this?


Thanks!

Posted on Jan 15, 2023 11:44 AM

Reply

Similar questions

6 replies

Jan 17, 2023 12:28 AM in response to jjfromco

To archive my photos I am also exporting them. On export I sm using the export setting “Subfolder: moment name”, so the photos will be grouped by folders named by the location and the capture date. I changed the date format to yyyy-mm-dd, that makes it easier to sort the exported folders by the date, and I group these folders by the year. These archive copies are on an external drive and I keep a copy of them on iCloud Drive for a second Apple ID, so they will not sync to my mobile devices. My Photos Library is backed up by Time Machine, as I keep the size small enough to avoid Optimize Storage. once a year I export a partial library with all new photos from the year.


Jan 15, 2023 12:09 PM in response to jjfromco

You can divide the library up. You should do this on an external dirve

Move your Photos library to save space on your Mac - Apple Support


I'd duplicate the library, then rename the duplicate. Make a smart album with Date Capture--is after--12/31/2009. Then select all those pictures and command-delete them. (Don't worry--it's a duplicate.) Now you've got a library with only pictures before 2010 (and also the original library, which you haven't messed with.) Then make another duplicate of the original and do "is before 1/1/2010.


Of course, you can pick your own divisions rather than 2010, and make several of them, not just 2.


There are other reasonable divisons. I am working on mine to make sure I have favorites marked of each event/album. Then I plan to but the favorites in one library and the not-so-favorites on a separate library. I already have a bunch of libraries. I keep these on a hard drive and I also have a backup of that. Since they're all in one place, I can load them each as operating systems change.


I use PowerPhotos to manage the multiple libraries.


When we changed from iPhotos to Photos I exported copies of all the pictures, event. It was a lot of work. I haven't really used that since.

Jan 16, 2023 8:08 AM in response to jjfromco

jjfromco wrote:
Should I be concerned that Photos Libraries are Apple specific and we may loose accessibility as operating systems change? Or that we may have an issue with a corrupted Library?

Sure. So I save all the pictures from my cameras (over the years) in folders right off their SD cards. Since my phone and iPad don't use SD cards, I periodically (after I think, "oh oh, I haven't done this, since when?") export all the new pictures since the last time, using Unmodified Originals (which is way faster.) I don't attempt to keep the album structure, so that saves lots of time.


So this is deep backup in case a nuclear holocaust destroys all Apple programs but somehow leaves me with a computer that can read digital image files. This is all original files, so edits and comments are only saved in Photos Libraries. I also use Time Machine for backups, and I have hard drives with static copies of old Libraries. (Originals are, by the way, with difficulty, available as individual image files from within the Photos Libraries, but should only be accessed in case of Armageddon.)


I have many, mostly portable, hard drives. I have CDs and DVDs with copies of original images going back to the early 2000s, that I've copied to the hard drives. Some of those CD-ROMs have copies of files from floppy disks from even earlier. Some of those files are totally un-readable because I used programs that no longer exist on computer systems that no longer exist (the sort of thing that you are concerned about.) Some of the image files are corrupted because CDs and DVDs aren't nearly as robust as we were lead to believe.


Anyway, you do what you have time to do.

Jan 16, 2023 10:00 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

Again thanks for taking the time to respond.


I think we will opt to automatically copy/backup all our photos from our iPhones (99.9% of our photos are taken on our phones, for ~$1000, luckily they take nice photos!) using Dropbox which we currently pay for.


Then, use your Photos Library suggestion for the Libraries to parse and reduce size. Place the older Libraries on a hard drive and Dropbox while also backing up the computer.


I think that's about all we can realistically handle 😂. Maybe we should take less pictures.


Jan 17, 2023 11:45 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

Should I be concerned that Photos Libraries are Apple specific and we may loose accessibility as operating systems change? Or that we may have an issue with a corrupted Library?

...

The good news is that 'priceless' documents CAN OFTEN be retrieved for a price. There are companies that specialize in rescuing, retrieving, and converting corrupted, outdated, and abandoned media formats for you, if you REALLY REALLY need it and are willing and able to pay whatever it costs.

As a digital packrat, after I made the transition away from Windows PC's to Mac in 2007, I've created multiple backups, archives, and virtual Windows machines using Parallels for Mac. So I have about 40 years of digital archives/clutter (depending upon your perspective), spread across multiple Macs with 50 TB of hard drives, clones, RAID-1 archives, backups, and cloud storage, in multiple locations. I recently retrieved Word 97 and Excel 97 documents and photos I had authored on a Windows 97 PC years ago, to provide historical perspective for my church as we embrace new initiatives.


Take time to review things before re-organizing and re-importing!


After encountering a Photos 7 issue with duplicate 'Live' photo imports (both 3-second .mov and .jpeg files are now displayed) from iOS 16.2 iPhones, I recently exported nearly 80,000 digital and scanned images I've taken since 2003. Examining my exports, I purged nearly 10,000 low-resolution copies, out-of-focus, duplicate, and unwanted images. Now I've imported 'the keepers' back into (Catalina) Photos 5 which does not display the duplicate behavior at the moment, saving many gigabytes of space.


The downside to Mac Photos that I've encountered is that once you access a .photoslibrary file with a newer version of macOS Photos, it can never be opened by any older version. So make certain you have backups before upgrading to a newer version of macOS.


Final thought: "You can never be too rich or have too many backups."

Jan 15, 2023 8:39 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

Thanks, this is really helpful.


Should I be concerned that Photos Libraries are Apple specific and we may loose accessibility as operating systems change? Or that we may have an issue with a corrupted Library? I may be an old school thinker but something about an actual picture file seems less at risk for being corrupted and less consequential than losing an entire library. However, like you said, a lot of work, up-keep and possibly so cumbersome I won't even want to dive in and look for something.


Thanks!

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Photos Library Process for Backup

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.