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Ventura 13.2 File Sharing broken

After the update to Mac OS Ventura 13.2 none of my Macs are unable to access each others' files. I am using iMacs, Macbook Air M2 and MacMini M1 on my network and everything was working flawlessly for years until this update (including latest additions of MBAir M2 and MMini M1).

The said, affected machines are still able to access the files on other Macs, on the same network, that have previous versions of Mac OS.


Sometimes, after turning off File Sharing and restarting the machines and turning back on File Sharing I am able to access the shared folders on internal SSD, but never on external disks. All of these external disks I've been using all the time shared between all of the machines.


Anyone?


I reported this, presumable, bug to Apple.

MacBook Air (M2)

Posted on Jan 26, 2023 4:03 AM

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Posted on Feb 3, 2023 5:09 PM

I just got off the phone with Apple. The fix I used was this:


  1. Shut down the effected Mac mini that was being used as the file server (not running server software).
  2. Restart.
  3. Turned File Sharing 'Off' on the Mac mini that was sharing the files.
  4. Quit system settings (SS).
  5. Restart the Mac mini again.
  6. Turned File Sharing back 'On'
  7. Quit SS
  8. Went to each of the other 3 iMac's needing to share those files, and then was able to reconnect to the Mac mini as we always did.


Now everything is working as it should (for the last couple hours I should say—so far, so good).

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Feb 8, 2023 6:28 AM in response to cactusgoeswest

@cactusgoeswest


your are absolutely right and we all should be aware to do so.

But meanwhile we need feasible solutions, workarounds etc.

Specially small business companies who use standard file sharing for daily business cannot wait.

First two weeks we shared files via mail and sticks it was horrible ...

Finally I set up an old mac with Monterey ... beside the workaround that works for me. Mentioned it above.

Cross your 🫰🏼to get a fix of Apple very soon

Br

-T


Feb 8, 2023 9:40 AM in response to trehling

I completely agree. I'm a business owner myself and have come to rely on the MacOs file sharing feature for some of my workflow. This is most definitely a huge inconvenience. None of the other methods mentioned in this forum have been a reliable permanent solution and I don't plan on reverting back to Monterey anytime soon. Hopefully Apple fixes this asap

Feb 8, 2023 9:50 AM in response to mxyzptlkQC

I have neglected to mention it, but I noticed that "media" sharing under Ventura 13.2 seems to operate normally, as expected. On my miniMac server under Ventura 13.2, I had one SSD for TM backups and a second SSD for files and media sharing. TM (Time Machine) ceased to function. File sharing ceased to function until I removed the custom icon. After that, it functioned until it didn't - which was pretty quickly. Permissions are completely open, no checking for ownership etc. This problem is more than a permissions issue. Even a quick, if uneducated, look at ALC (Access Control Links) showed nothing amiss. But, media sharing seems to be unaffected. Media, of course, are defined by "macOS Music" and "macOS TV", which used to be "iTunes". These media were accessed by my AppleTV device, connected by wifi to the miniMac server, without any issues. This is intriguing, since the media are stored on the same SSD as other shared documents with which I had been unable to connect properly with SMB (OS X). I do not know what protocol ensures media sharing. Is it something other than SMB?


I have since successfully downgraded my miniMac server, and only my miniMac server, to Monterey 12.6.1. Everything is now working normally.

Feb 12, 2023 11:20 AM in response to zoranm

Our network = 3 Macs, 1 AppleTV, 1 miniMac server (media, files, TM). The Macs are running Ventura 13.2. With the minMac on Ventura 13.2, SMB file sharing and TM sharing is next to impossible even after discarding custom icons. Media sharing, however, seems unaffected. I downgraded the miniMac server to Monterey 12.6.3. All problems were solved, with the exception of SMB file sharing between 2 Macs both running Ventura 13.2. I decided this morning to upgrade the miniMac to Ventura 13.1, the version it was running before all this nonsense started. Media, file, & TM shares are working normally as would be expected. One can only get a 13.2 install off the Apple Store. Nonetheless, the following link allows one to get the Ventura 13.1 installer, or even the Monterey installer :


https://www.iclarified.com/87836/where-to-download-macos-ventura




Feb 12, 2023 2:25 PM in response to murrayE

This is interesting. I have always gone through Finder to connect to a server. Going through Safari opens an authentification dialogue box and offers a choice of which folder to access. I would be interested to know if it also permits TM (Time Machine) backup shares. I have already downgraded our server to Ventura 13.1, so I am not in a position to test it. I presume that a reboot on a server running Ventura 13.2 would require another set of authentifications.


If this is the case, then the problem may lie with authentifications being lost by the server for known clients which, bizarrely, was not a problem under Ventura 13.1. So it is not so much a permissions issues, as an authentification issue.

Feb 13, 2023 2:52 PM in response to brian163

I confirm the bad news. I upgraded one iMac to 13.2.1 and defined on it a test folder in sharing. I gave the folder a custom icon. It was impossible to connect. Behaviour seems unchanged, although this is not a thorough test. Nonetheless, it is probable that nothing has been resolved regarding broken SMB networking. As they say, "if you break it, you own it". Apple engineers own this.

Feb 14, 2023 6:05 AM in response to sofalounge

All our equipment is Apple Silicon M1. I have upgraded a macBook and an iMac to 13.2.1. I have created a shared test folder on the iMac. I have given it a custom icon. When I attempt to connect to the iMac "server" from the macBook "client" through Finder, the result is failure. Finder freezes. A full reboot of the macBook is required. This is the same behaviour as before with Ventura 13.2. Nothing new here.


SMB file sharing remains dysfunctional. This feature was broken by Apple between 13.1 and 13.2. They own it.

Feb 15, 2023 6:56 AM in response to ctphoto1

My tests have not been exhaustive, but I have tried using 13.2 with and without custom icons. My experience has been that, with a custom icon, there is never a connection to the client. However, the host seems to acknowledge a connection. Without a custom icon, there is a connection. But, it seems that after a certain period of time, the connection becomes unstable.


I am also unsure about the connection to backup SMBs (Time Machine). Backups had been regular every night to our miniMac server, until Ventura 13.2. Then they stopped completely. I have not tested a Ventura 13.2 client backing up (TM) to a Ventura 13.2 host destination folder that does not have a custom icon. That would be worth testing.

Feb 15, 2023 7:37 AM in response to sofalounge

13.2.1 has NOT solved file sharing issues for me unfortunately. I'm running an M1 Ultra Mac Studio as my main machine and I have an M1 Macbook Pro.


Today after restarting my Mac Studio I was able to access Mac Studio files from my Macbook Pro. But when I tried to connect from my Macbook Pro to an external drive that is plugged into the Mac Studio, I'm able to mount the external drive to my desktop. But when I click on it and try to access any files from the external drive, finder just says "loading" and never actually loads anything from the drive. I've also had finder completely freeze up, causing me to force quit finder. Then finder never reloads so I have to hold the power button down and restart.


All of that to say 13.2.1 does not contain the file sharing fix that I was hoping for in a MacOs update. Then again, the release notes Apple provided were extremely vague with the usual "Bug fixed and security updates".

Feb 15, 2023 7:44 AM in response to cactusgoeswest

Anyone in this thread have any ideas how we can get Apple to fix this ASAP besides calling and leaving feedback? I have talked to upper level tech support and they just say they are reporting it to the developers. But no solid answer when this will be fixed. I, like others, thought the very quickly released 13.2.1 update would contain the fix.


Is there a better place to complain? Does Apple even look at these discussions?

Ventura 13.2 File Sharing broken

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