Drive issues after macOS 13.2 update

I updated my Mac Studio to macOS Ventura 13.2 last night.

This morning neither of my external hard drives would show up in Disk Utility or in the Finder. The drives spun up and did not sleep. An SSD in the same enclosure as one of the drives always mounted normally.

I checked all 6 Thunderbolt ports, different Thunderbolt 4 cables, shut down and restarted several times. Etrecheck Pro found no problems.


Then I found this thread:

macOS Ventura reboot - Apple Community

and the helpful reply by P. Phillips, which reminded me of Safe Boot.


1 - Restart in Safe Mode. This will perform a Disk Repair, clear cache files and only load Apple Software, extensions and fonts. The boot up will be slow and can take some time - Normal.

2 - Safe Mode will also eliminate Third Party Software, extensions and drivers from loading 

3 - Does the issue present in this mode ?

4 - Sometimes a Safe Boot followed by a Normal Boot will just put things right.


In Safe Mode, both external drives mounted normally. After a normal reboot, the two drives again mounted normally. So it seems that whatever disk repair the OS does during a safe boot fixed my problem.


Mac Studio Ultra Mac13,2 updated to macOS 13.2

OWC Ministack enclosure one with a 14T hard drive, second OWC Ministack with a 14T hard drive and a 4T SSD.

Apple 3m Thunderbolt 4 cables, one for each enclosure.

Mac Studio, macOS 13.2

Posted on Jan 26, 2023 2:50 PM

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Posted on Mar 30, 2023 3:09 PM

AmedeoCiminnisi wrote:

It IS an Apple issue. It's been three months for me. Where is the fix for this?

My understanding is that macOS 13.2.1 fixed the issue for most people. OWC verified this for their drive enclosures, and that has been my experience.


I installed macOS 13.3 on 03/28/2023, and the issue of drives not mounting did not return.


Note: Shortly after a restart, I am still seeing a Notification of a hard drive in one of my OWC Ministack boxes being ejected improperly. When I check in Finder, the drive is mounted (since 13.2.1). This did not happen after I installed macOS 13.3, but did when I restarted later in the day for the Studio Display update.

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Mar 30, 2023 3:09 PM in response to AmedeoCiminnisi

AmedeoCiminnisi wrote:

It IS an Apple issue. It's been three months for me. Where is the fix for this?

My understanding is that macOS 13.2.1 fixed the issue for most people. OWC verified this for their drive enclosures, and that has been my experience.


I installed macOS 13.3 on 03/28/2023, and the issue of drives not mounting did not return.


Note: Shortly after a restart, I am still seeing a Notification of a hard drive in one of my OWC Ministack boxes being ejected improperly. When I check in Finder, the drive is mounted (since 13.2.1). This did not happen after I installed macOS 13.3, but did when I restarted later in the day for the Studio Display update.

Feb 2, 2023 8:52 AM in response to SteveOHutch


SteveOHutch wrote:
It'll be very hard to EVER trust Ventura.


I don't think it's a Ventura issue per se.

I have had spontaneous unmounts, sometimes with a spontaneous remount, since 04/14/2022, before my Mac Studio arrived and before Ventura. This would usually happen once or twice after a restart.

After installing 13.2, hard drives in both my OWC Ministack enclosures (Thunderbolt 4) failed to mount. But a safe boot seems to have fixed that. Drive Utility First Aid seems to have fixed even the spontaneous unmounts, at least for a few days.

My Mac Studio is all Thunderbolt 4, but some people apparently see problems with other connections, with SSDs and hard drives and with various brands. It's hard to tell if all the reports are actually the same problem.

Feb 4, 2023 7:03 PM in response to Klahane

I'm having success mounting my OWC Ministack (though the SSD never fails to mount) by either running a fresh install of Ventura 13.2(only mounts after the first start) or now just unplugging and re-plugging the Thunderbolt cable on the back of the Ministack. Neither Safe Mode or any other" supposed fix" showing up online right now seemed to work for me. Joshua (tech) at OWC is very aware of the problem and we've been conversing for days. Originally I was going to return the Ministack (thinking that was the problem) until following these forum postings, I found that external drives of every ilk were experiencing this problem with Ventura 13.2

Feb 5, 2023 10:14 AM in response to Glenn Gronquist1

"I'm having success mounting my OWC Ministack (though the SSD never fails to mount) by... unplugging and re-plugging the Thunderbolt cable on the back of the Ministack."


This worked for me this morning. Faster than a restart.

(As I noted above, I have a long-standing issue with one or the other of my external hard drives spontaneously unmounting after a restart.)


I should add that the OWC Ministack enclosures have an indicator light for the Thunderbolt connection, so it's not an issue of the enclosure thinking it isn't connected.

Feb 16, 2023 5:40 AM in response to Klahane

Thanks Klahane!


I've been having problems accessing my Lacie 2big DOCK 16GB drive. Been storing backups on it and when I plug it in (after installing Ventura) it did not show up in Finder. NTFS Paragon and Disk utility recognised that there was a drive connected to my Macbook pro M1 MAX, and the drive was spinning up.


I searched all over to see if it was something wrong with my Mac, almost delivered the drive to a technician as the Lacie disk is the only disk I have that didn't work. Luckily I found your post and followed the restart in Safe Mode steps. The drive showed up in Safe Mode, I restarted the Mac in normal mode, and now the disk works fine!


Thanks for your help. Hope Apple can find a solution to this problem.


ps. I was running Ventura 13.2.1, and still had the problem

Feb 1, 2023 8:01 PM in response to oxmox11

really sorry to hear ...


unfortunately for me, after trying a dozen or so things, I reverted back to macOS 12. external drives now mount via USB-C or external dock connections.


I have an intel mbp 16. when I was on 13.2, plugging in a drive I noticed something strange - the drive name showed up in one of the USB items listed in System Information (in the USB section). but really lost about getting it to appear anywhere else on macOS.


a shame, for all those needing their external drives to do their work and having this function broken after a software update. this type of thing is nothing new. and I always did not like jumping on the latest the instant it comes out - for this reason.


unfortunately, for me it took a complete wipe of my Mac, then installing macOS 12 from a USB installer (booting into recovery). and even more sadly for me my time machine backups were on the external drive that did not want to connect and one of my troubleshooting choices was to wipe it clean. but I would not have done that if I didn't have 2 duplicates of my backups and personal data elsewhere on my network.

end result is that I am just about doing a fresh/clean install and adding back my docs/apps/settings all manually.


but I intend to stay on Monterey for a while, probably will not bother with any newer macOS for my mbp.


if you have a tm backup on one of your external drives, and you cannot wait for the developer to figure it out and push a mac update ... maybe you might want to do the same as I did and then restore from the tm backup.


I really would have wished for an application or software suite that can take a verbatim picture of my mac's SSD - exactly - and back it up. some open source apps used to be available that could do that like clonezilla. but the state of newer OS's and encryptions built-in are making solutions like that impossible to offer to users.


Jan 30, 2023 10:20 PM in response to zero7404

After I got both drives mounted again, as I noted above, I still had some spontaneous unmounts, an issue that I've been tracking since the end of 2021.

I ran both drives through one level of Disk Utility First Aid, and both have remained mounted and behaving normally since then (though they might not be sleeping as expected). But that's only a few days.

Disk Utility First Aid takes 15 hours to complete on the 14T hard drives I use for Time Machine, with 82 snapshots. And it seems it would take the same amount of time for each level (disk name, container, enclosure) as Apple recommends because each pass checks each file.

As I wrote before, the one SSD in one OWC enclosure always mounts. But it also has no files on it, because it's not in use at the moment.

Feb 5, 2023 9:57 PM in response to Klahane

I just installed Montery from scratch and everything is working again, all HD's show up all, all SD card readers work again all USB Thumb drives are recognised again.


well done apple the update to 13.2 cost me so far 3 days of work


only issue I have is my Photos Library is no longer recognised as it's not backwards compatible :-(

Jan 30, 2023 10:07 PM in response to Klahane

i have an external SSD, which i use connected to an OWC Thunderbolt 3 dock. it used to mount fine with 2 partitions on it (apfs TM, EXFAT). that doesn't work anymore and i think the last time it did, it was before my update to 13.2.


i've tried accessing from Safe Boot, and the TM partition appears, mounts, etc. however the EXFAT does not (it is Ghosted in diskutility). rebooted back to normal, neither partition will mount. they will not even appear in diskutility.


i tried connecting the external SSD directly to the mbp's thunderbolt ports, as well as via the OWC dock but not working. have also tried using another user account on my mac, and have also tried resetting NVRAM (twice).


the last thing i decided to do is completely wipe the SSD (in safe boot) and make a single APFS partition on it first, then add another partition (tried EXFAT, then tried MSDOS). they do not mount in safe boot.


had to lose my TM backup stored on the SSD to try this, but reformatting the drive it appears did not do anything but reveal that 13.2 has issues.


is Apple aware of this ? i've seen numerous posts doing a google search, as well as in this community - many unresolved/unanswered.

Feb 4, 2023 3:12 AM in response to Glenn Gronquist1

Apple "Engineers" suggested it's an issue with a drive in the Promise (despite all drives showing up and promise utility and system diagnostics test shows they are all good)


So I still have a M1 MacBook Pro on 13.1 installed Promise Driver, and Promise works as expected, so definitely a 13.2 issue not a Promise issue. It's quite incredible that Apple pretty much has no way to downgrade a system, yet they release purely tested system updates that render a big part of my set-up unusable.


I documented this on film; now I will update the MacBook to 13.2 and would think the same issue will occur again.


I managed to get a terminal command to download Ventura 13.1 as it's otherwise not publicly available to users


Here is the Terminal command to create a macOS 13.1 installer in the Applications folder: sudo softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer --full-installer-version 13.1


Not for the first time Apple f%$# this up nicely so far three days of work and deadlines missed because of this BS

Feb 4, 2023 3:35 PM in response to Klahane

Update

Both of my hard drives in OWC Ministack enclosures stayed mounted for six days.

Today, I shut down my Mac Studio so I could unplug and label my two Apple 3m Thunderbolt 4 cables. (They thread under a desk.)

Neither of my two hard drives in OWC Ministack enclosures mounted on restart.

The SSD in one of my OWC Ministack enclosures did mount, as it always has.

Shut down and Started in Safe Mode—both hard drives mounted.

Restarted from Apple menu—both hard drives mounted.


I have no idea what could possibly be running on a normal startup, but not in Safe Mode that would affect external hard drives. (And then, whatever software would have to stop being problematic on a later restart.)

As usual, EtreCheck Pro shows no major problems and no suspicious minor problems. I have an Epson V600 and its software and a Canon TR8620a and its software.

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