How to block Google Updater and Microsoft AutoUpdate

In my Login Items, I turned off Google Updater, MicrosSoft Update, Microsoft Corporation and Microsoft Edge. I did the same in Privacy & Security under Full Disk Access for Google Chrome, Google Software Update and Microsoft Edge.


Yet every time my computer starts up, I get a list of Notifications about the Background Items they have added.


I should have them blocked so how is it that they continue to added items and why on every restart? I don't want them to have such access. How do I control this?




Mac mini 2018 or later

Posted on Feb 1, 2023 11:51 AM

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Feb 3, 2023 4:08 AM in response to James Cook2

Again, they were not properly written to handle being turned off. I have read here that Chrome or an extension re-enables the Login Items. That’s a problem with Chrome.


The Login Items are entirely separate from the Background process Notifications and controls even though located at the same panel.

A Login Item can start up without running a background process. An app can run a background process without having a Login Item.

The notifications are for the background process, not the Login Items. Also, an app can launch a background process and actually start at login without being in Login Items.


Apple provided a control to disable background processes, but that doesn’t mean the app running the background process knows anything about that control. All it knows is when it tries to run its background process, it doesn’t run. Since you told the app to run that process by the mere fact that you installed the app, it attempts to “fix” itself by adding a new background process, triggering a notification.


Those other ways of starting up can be accomplished with LaunchAgents or LaunchDaemons. There are folders by those names in the Library folders that may have the controlling launchd plist. However, the startup item may be embedded in the App bundle. Removing the plist may prevent it from running the background process, or it may break the App altogether.

The Apps need to be updated to work properly with Ventura.


Since Chrome already violates the Apple guidelines that require the app have a method to disable login items from installing, I don’t imagine they will fix their app for this, either.

Feb 1, 2023 12:06 PM in response to James Cook2

James Cook2 wrote:

In my Login Items, I turned off Google Updater, MicrosSoft Update, Microsoft Corporation and Microsoft Edge.

Why? Do you not want to use them anymore? If so, you should just uninstall the software.

I did the same in Privacy & Security under Full Disk Access for Google Chrome, Google Software Update and Microsoft Edge.

Probably not the end of the world, but I have often needed to upload files that aren’t stored in the usual places.

Yet every time my computer starts up, I get a list of Notifications about the Background Items they have added.
I should have them blocked so how is it that they continue to added items and why on every restart? I don't want them to have such access. How do I control this?

Well, that’s because you installed software that was apparently of use to you at some point, and you have disabled some of their features. They are likely trying to provide the services you wanted when you installed them. If you have no use for their services, uninstall the apps following the developer’s instructions or use their uninstall app.

Feb 3, 2023 4:42 AM in response to Barney-15E

I have read here that Chrome or an extension re-enables the Login Items. That’s a problem with Chrome.


That's helpful information and not surprising. The “Sign in with Google” prompt seen in browsers is also hard/impossible to disable.


It appears that Microsoft has done much the same.


Ideally Apple will fix their ability to override these user settings in violation of guidelines. It could be a security issue if malware gets a foothold.


I'm familiar with Startup Items and Background Processes, but in Ventura they're both accessed by going to Login Items. And this:


should prevent this:


I will check in the Library folder for the daemons and agents. That's a good suggestion. Thanks.

Feb 1, 2023 3:44 PM in response to James Cook2

James Cook2 wrote:

I need the browsers for occasional use in testing. There's no need for them to load something every time the computer starts. In fact, it wasn't until I turned them off that the notifications began appearing.

Exactly. They don’t work correctly, and you exacerbate the issue by preventing them from doing what you asked. If you disable them, they try to do what you asked of them, but cannot. Since they know nothing of Ventura’s privacy system, they attempt to “fix” what you broke.

But it seems to point to a bigger issue... Login Items is failing to stop them.

Those aren’t login item notifications. They are background processes run by apps you installed for some reason. Now that you are aware they run things in the background, you don’t like them. Makes little sense to me. Either you want the app or you don’t. The background process is what the app does. It was ok when you were unaware, but now is somehow a problem.

If you don’t like that it runs a process in the background, uninstall the app, don’t cripple it.

Feb 3, 2023 3:25 AM in response to Barney-15E

I'm inclined to think that this is a bug in the OS that I'm dealing with. If these applications are in fact successfully adding items to run in the background, it was never previously reported via Notifications when they were not blocked via LogIn Items. It was only after I attempted to block them that they began to repeatedly notify me that Background Items were added. Really? How many times a day do they need to add their background items?


What would be more likely is to be notified that they were unable to add those items. Maybe there's an error in the dialog wording.


According to these Notifications, I "can manage this in Login Items Settings". On that point , if you're right that they aren’t login item notifications, then there's an error in the Notification aka a bug in the OS.


Login Items is obviously influencing the situation since it causes these notifications to appear or not appear. But they're in a reversal of the behavior that I would expect.


They don’t work correctly, and you exacerbate the issue by preventing them from doing what you asked. If you disable them, they try to do what you asked of them, but cannot.

At the moment I don't want them doing anything. What I am asking is for them to sit idle on my computer like other browsers that I'm not actively using. I need them only occasionally in order to test cgi programming that I'm working on. It's not desirable to download and install them every time I have some new processes to test. But I am supposed to be able to turn off their activity at startup via Login Items.


So I continue to see this as a Ventura failure in one way or another.



Feb 7, 2023 5:20 AM in response to James Cook2

Deleting a number of items and even deleting the apps themselves didn't end this unwanted and ongoing string of Notifications. Simply activating Login Items in the system prefs generated yet another string of them.


As it turns out, al I had to do is look in this forum under "Google Chrome" to discover it's a huge and ongoing issue. This thread: Google Chrome Repeatedly Adds itself to L… - Apple Community has over 2300 Me Too's.


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