Can anyone explain why the Touch Bar was discontinued?
I find the TouchBar very useful. Can anyone tell me why it was discontinued in 2017?
MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 12.6
I find the TouchBar very useful. Can anyone tell me why it was discontinued in 2017?
MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 12.6
I was one of those people who hates the Touchbar especially since it replaced the actual physical function keys. The original 2016 & 2017 models even had the ESC key as a virtual key on the Touchbar which is kind of an important key to have available at all times, but when the touchar malfunctions or while in Safe Mode, there was no ESC key available...Apple fixed this on later models by making the ESC key a physical key again.
Perhaps if they added the Touchbar above the function keys I would feel different, but I doubt it. While I can see the Touchbar being useful in a few small edge cases, I never saw anything actually take real advantage of the Touchbar in any meaningful way. In fact, having inconsistent locations for the default items (brightness & volume...varies when on the lock screen and when logged in), plus having to move my finger over after initially pressing the brightness/volume to raise/lower is annoying.
While entering the login password, the Touchbar displays a virtual "Login" button. I don't understand it except it is Apple's attempt to try to make the bar look useful. It is much easier to just press the "Return" key to submit the password than move my hand to the Touchbar to touch the virtual "Login" button to submit the password, or just use the Trackpad to click the "next" arrow.
Being a hardware person, I see it is just more complexity and something else which will fail causing an expensive repair since the Touchbar is not replaceable by itself (at least with official Apple repairs).
BTW, I thought I had read that Apple brought back the Touchbar at least on some of the M2 MBPros.
Just my 2 cent perspective.
This is primarily a user-to-user support forum; other Apple users like you. We don't have access to unpublished information from Apple and to the best of my knowledge they haven't made any public statements.
My own observation is that it didn't seem to catch on and wasn't a popular option. I felt like I was in the minority that did really like. I miss it but not a big deal. Really glad that Touch ID didn't go away.
Thanks for your perspective. As somebody who is a coder and getting on in years 😊 my memory is not what it was. I use a lot of different software and can never remember what the function keys are for each different application. Having them right in front of me as icons on the task bar makes that a whole lot easier. For example I just used the emoji taskbar key to bring up a list of most used emojis to put one in this email. I couldn't remember how to do that easily with the mystery icons at the bottom of this window. I remember back in the early days of computing when all of the sages were saying that computers were going to eliminate paperwork and make our lives easier. It didn't happen. It made our lives more frustrating. The last 21 years before I retired, I worked at a government agency and had to use Windows. It was the most frustrating time of my life. I couldn't wait to retire. I spent more times trying to figure out how to do something because unlike the Mac, most menus were non-standard. At least most Mac software follows the MacOS menu structure for most things.
Thanks for your reply. I was wondering whether or not there was a technical reason or it was just market driven. I saw a few posts about hardware issues, but none seemed major. I, like you, think it is a fantastic and unique addition to the platform, but alas I guess we are in the minority. I do remember a kerfuffle at the WWDC in
'2017 amongst the lovers and haters, but I guess the haters won.
MacSince84 wrote:
I, like you, think it is a fantastic and unique addition to the platform, but alas I guess we are in the minority.
I, too, loved it. But, it wasn't especially popular, as noted. I also wonder if it added to the manufacturing cost so, removing it might have been a way to keep prices down and still make money.
Can anyone explain why the Touch Bar was discontinued?