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Ventura 13.2.1 - wifi dropping on MBP and Mini

I've got a 2018 MBP and a late 2018 Mac Mini both fully updated to 13.2.1 and both recently intermittently dropping wifi. To the extent that they won't see any wifi networks at all.


The old trick of turning the wifi off and back on works temporarily. I have to go as far as

forgetting the wifi network altogether and rejoining to gain a stable connection.


Other wifi clients in the house are unaffected, even multiple iOS devices.


The router in use is fully up to date on firmware and OS. I've checked router logs and there's no LAN IP conflicts.


The issue seems to be isolated to the two MacOS devices and only since 13.2.1.


I have tried to perform wifi diagnostics on the MBP but as the wifi is constantly dropping there's nothing conclusive but I had the report files saved.


Coupled to this I've also performed some of the common wifi network troubleshooting steps.


  • forgotten network and reconnected
  • deleted wifi interface from settings and rebuilt
  • deleted .plist files from SystemConfig folder
  • reset the NVRAM
  • Created a second wifi network in the router to only have the MBP and Mac Mini use that
  • Turned off Airplay
  • Not turned off Bluetooth as some sites suggest as that's not possible due to input peripherals being bluetooth
  • Ruled out WLAN issues due to all other wifi clients on the WLAN being unaffected, including iOS devices

Mac mini, macOS 12.4

Posted on Mar 6, 2023 1:45 AM

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Posted on May 2, 2023 11:25 AM

Can this issue please be escalated so Apple can fix it in their next update? It’s clearly an OS Ventura problem by reading people’s comments.

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May 2, 2023 11:17 AM in response to christof21

I am having the issue with my 16” 2019 MacBook Pro. It worked absolutely fine prior to upgrading to Ventura. I normally wait a few months after a new OS release in the hopes that most bugs would be ironed out however it seems this issue is still ongoing and no answer from Apple?

Ive reset DNS cache, reinstalled the OS, turned off VPN, used CleanMyMac X, tried disabling Bluetooth, changed DNS server, used other browsers and nothing has worked. Every other click of a web link gets me the grey screen ‘cannot connect to server’. I then have to reload the page and hope it comes up. My laptop is now pretty much useless to me. iPhone and iPad work fine on the same network with no drop outs at all.

May 15, 2023 12:50 AM in response to christof21

Just to keep active on this thread I started, as everyone has been saying, I'm also still having this issue.



Nothing I've tried has resolved it at all. In fact I've noticed some very odd behaviours with the wifi broadcast. Recently, I installed NetSpot on my Macbook Pro and had it open and scanning the wifi networks. What I noticed is when the Macbook dropped the wifi I would check the "Known Networks" list and no wifi networks were showing at all. However, when I looked at Netspot it was seeing not only my wifi network, but all neighbouring ones as well.


That strikes me as odd behaviour and in my uneducated rationale, points at a software thing rather than a problem with the physical wifi hardware.


Either way, something isn't quite right after Ventura and it really needs further investigation.

Jun 4, 2023 2:24 PM in response to christof21

I've had a similar issue since 13.2.1, though this manifests slightly differently: the machine (M1 Pro MBP) refuses to connect to my home router (either on the internal or guest networks), but works fine with other connections like tethering or a wifi hotspot from my desktop system. The router settings haven't changed, and all other devices can still connect fine.


Aside from trying the above steps, I've also observed that the issue seems to occur in the recovery OS, and the system can still see the networks, but won't get an IP under any circumstances.


The recent OS updates haven't affected the issue in any way, but it is very frustrating, and I can seemingly only hope that a future update will resolve the issue.

Jun 6, 2023 10:05 AM in response to christof21

I was happy[?] to find this post, as my late 2017 MBP running Ventura 13.4 is having the problem of the internet randomly dropping out, reconnecting for about 10 seconds, dropping, reconnecting, etc. etc. No other device has any trouble (M1 MBA running Catalina, 2 iPhones running different iOS versions). Restarting the router and then restarting my MBP fixes the problem for a while, with 'a while' being between a few hours and several days. It feels so Windows 3.1.1 like.

Jun 8, 2023 2:52 PM in response to Ronald_Cox

I am having the exact same experience as so many others are talking about here, and it began the moment I updated -- not by choice, to be clear -- to Ventura 13.3.1. An endless, tiresome, exhausting series of moments in which, in the middle of a work task or something else, I am suddenly no longer on WiFi. As well as relentless requests to join my phone's 'hotspot,' which does not in fact exist. Finally got that one turned off, but the nonexistent 'hotspot' appears relentlessly on the WiFi list. Quite unhappy with Apple, and have been for some time.

Jul 12, 2023 12:48 PM in response to christof21

Same here, I thought it was an issue with Cisco Anyconnect but after upgrading to latest it's still happening. I drop off zoom meetings at work, can't access any website, my ssh sessions drop. The connection loss can last from seconds to minutes, then it magically resolves. Horribly frustrating and embarrassing that I've dropped off so many zoom meetings. Seems like Apple has no interest in fixing their broken networking stack.

Jul 13, 2023 1:28 AM in response to fs4fun

Do you have bluetooth dropouts as well as WiFi issues? I understand that the wifi and bluetooth are intimately connected in the MBP.


I use a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad, and routinely get total dropout. The onboard keyboard and trackpad on the MBP are not affected. Restart required to get bluetooth operational again.


These dropouts don't coincide with the WiFi failures on the MBP, but are equally aggravating!

Jul 15, 2023 6:15 AM in response to christof21

In my case the problem looked like this: if I tried to ping the router, it delivers and receives 5 packets, then has no route to the router for the next 5-8 packets, then successfully sends/receives 5-6 more and so on.


The problem was with the little snitch firewall. I disabled it under Settings -> Network -> VPN & Filters -> Filters & Proxies.

Not sure if update would help as the little snitch's update server is down at the moment. Could be an OS-level bug of Filters & Proxies.

Ventura 13.2.1 - wifi dropping on MBP and Mini

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