Can't use universal control with a VPN

I have just downloaded a VPN on all of my devices and realised that universal control doesn't work. I realised that it might have something to do with the VPN and it encrypts my data which would probably stop apple from using Wifi to make universal control work. Is there any workaround for this? Anyone has also encountered this problem?

MacBook Air, macOS 13.2

Posted on Mar 11, 2023 5:07 PM

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Posted on Mar 12, 2023 9:11 AM

Hi student_vincent,


If you turn the VPN off on your devices does universal control work?

Some VPNs by default will tunnel all network traffic over the VPN which will stop devices on the same local network from working together. Most VPN apps have the option in their settings to allow local connections. Perhaps your VPN app has that in its settings.

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Mar 12, 2023 9:11 AM in response to student_vincent

Hi student_vincent,


If you turn the VPN off on your devices does universal control work?

Some VPNs by default will tunnel all network traffic over the VPN which will stop devices on the same local network from working together. Most VPN apps have the option in their settings to allow local connections. Perhaps your VPN app has that in its settings.

Mar 12, 2023 9:43 AM in response to student_vincent

If you're trying to use a VPN for privacy, you're wasting your time and screwing up your devices.


Public VPN's are anything but private.


A VPN can do absolutely nothing to hide any data going between you and the site you're viewing since only half of the communication is encrypted. Anything going to the site from the VPN and back to it is in the clear, or the site you're accessing would have no idea what to do with the encrypted data.


A VPN has only two uses:


1. You're using it to send and receive content from a truly tunneled VPN at your place of employment. Only the servers at the office get the unencrypted data from you as output from the VPN. Anything coming back to you is encrypted. Meaning, anyone trying to capture data between you and the office will only ever see encrypted data. A hacker would have to somehow breach the business' server on the clear input/output side, or your end to get anything.


2. You're trying to hide yourself. Since a VPN encrypts what's coming back to you, it does a good job at hiding what IP address the data is going back to (and as the link mentions, even this doesn't do a good job of hiding you anymore). However, any and all VPN's log this data. If you do anything illegal and law enforcement tracks the clear data back to the VPN (and they can), they'll demand log data to see what IP address the data was output to. The site running the VPN will give you up. They aren't going to go to jail for what you do.


Free VPNs sell your data. (just one of many sites explaining this)


This isn't exactly breaking news. It's been known for a very long time that free VPN's (in particular) log and sell your data. How else do you think they pay for their servers?


It's the same model as Google, and in particular, Chrome. You are the product. Chrome runs a background daemon from the moment you turn your computer on, whether Chrome itself is running or not. Its job is to constantly send anonymized data back to Google about your web and personal computer usage.


NordVPN is supposedly one of the better offerings. But it's still mostly useless. No matter what web site you're communicating with, only what you send to the VPN and it sends back to you is encrypted. Every bit of data out of the VPN to the site you're visiting, and from there back to the VPN is the same as using no VPN at all. It has to be, or the sites you're visiting would just get a load of encrypted data they can't do anything with.


VPN reviews you find online are also almost completely untrustworthy:


Former Malware Distributor Kape Technologies Now Owns ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate, and a Collection of VPN “Review” Websites

Mar 12, 2023 10:56 AM in response to student_vincent

To add to Kurt's comments about VPNs: unless you're using a true VPN tunnel, such as between you and your employer's, school's or bank's servers, they provide false security from a privacy standpoint.  Read these two articles: Public VPN's are anything but private and Former Malware Distributor Kape Technologies Now Owns ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate, and a Collection of VPN “Review” Websites. 



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