How to export keyed green screen video using 4444 or 4444 XQ for alpha channel (i.e. transparent bkg) without creating massive 75 GB video files?

I would like to...

  1. Shoot a 15 min. of an actor making a speech in front of a green screen.
  2. Use the native Final Cut Pro Effect > keying > Keyer effect to remove the background
  3. Export the video without a background (transparent) so I can place this video over-top of any background I'd like in the future.


I know that it has something to do with something called an alpha channel.

I do not know 100% what an Alpha Channel is, and I do plan to do back and learn more... but for right now, I am super pressed for time and bandwidth... so I just need to know the real-world how-to on this.

I know that one can simply...


  • Complete steps 1-3 above
  • Go to export (or... "Share"... ugh... I hate Apple's stupid use of the word Share)...
  • Export file (default) > Settings [tab]
  • Format [dropdown] = Video and Audio
  • Video Codec = Apple ProRes 4444 or 4444 XQ
  • Click: Next


Apparently this will export a video with an "alpha channel" that I can later... use/disable/something... so that I can change the background behind the actor in future projects in FCP.


I think I understand the process. But... when I look at the .mov file estimated file size... we're talking about 55-75 GB files?!?! The same video turns out to be ~2 GB when I use my standard... Computer > H.624 Codec exports for YouTube.


What is up with this HUGE file size?


I have Apple Compressor... (never used it). What am I missing?How can I export this transparent background video, without creating titanic .mov files?

Posted on Apr 19, 2023 2:39 PM

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023 4:00 AM

I think you may be being too impatient and the process is not as quick as you expect. The conversion from PR 4444 to HEVC is quite a lengthy process.


I exported a 63 second video called "TEST ALPHA" using PR 4444 to the desktop with a file size of 4.3GB


Next I right clicked and selected Services>Encode Selected Video Files



I then selected the following settings and clicked Continue . . .


Shortly after the following 2 files appeared on my desktop. The upper one contained Zero bytes. These 2 files are only temporary.



I had to wait almost 2 minutes and the above 2 files disappeared and were replaced by the one below which is HEVC, contains an Alpha Channel and is only 235MB in size.



So assuming your computer is around the same speed as mine, a 15 minute video would take about 30 minutes to complete.

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Apr 21, 2023 4:00 AM in response to Dolmetscher

I think you may be being too impatient and the process is not as quick as you expect. The conversion from PR 4444 to HEVC is quite a lengthy process.


I exported a 63 second video called "TEST ALPHA" using PR 4444 to the desktop with a file size of 4.3GB


Next I right clicked and selected Services>Encode Selected Video Files



I then selected the following settings and clicked Continue . . .


Shortly after the following 2 files appeared on my desktop. The upper one contained Zero bytes. These 2 files are only temporary.



I had to wait almost 2 minutes and the above 2 files disappeared and were replaced by the one below which is HEVC, contains an Alpha Channel and is only 235MB in size.



So assuming your computer is around the same speed as mine, a 15 minute video would take about 30 minutes to complete.

Apr 22, 2023 3:05 AM in response to Dolmetscher

OK, I feel your pain and frustration at being left in the dark, so just for you I will show you the simplest way of creating an HEVC file with transparency, whilst having a progress bar to gaze upon fondly.


Export your PR 4444 file from FCP and open it in QuickTime Player whereupon you select File>Export As>1080p (or whatever else you desire).



You will then be presented with this window where you select Smaller File Size (HEVC) and ensure Preserve Transparency is ticked. You can also change the destination and title if you wish.



Click Save and this window will appear showing a beautiful shade of blue progress line wending its way gracefully across the screen whilst simultaneously displaying an estimated finish time in elegant text.



What could be a more satisfying way of creating a tiny, high quality HEVC video with transparency?


That's all, folks!

Apr 20, 2023 5:35 AM in response to Dolmetscher

The zero byte file appears while the process is being run. QuickTime doesn’t show transparency. Oddly QuickLook does. Select the 4444 in the Finder and press the spacebar. You should see ghosting of the desktop in the transparency areas.


HEVC. H.264. ProRess 4444 are all codecs that have different properties. In ProRes each frame is encoded separately at a high data rate to create very high quality recordings. The other two codecs encode in groups of frames with only a complete frame every 15 frames. HEVC OS a newer version of H264. It gets better quality at a lower data rate and can do transparency. Not all systems and devices can play it back however. It not as widely used as H264.

Apr 21, 2023 1:51 PM in response to Dolmetscher

Click the background task button or press Cmd-9.


For an excellent introduction to FCP start with Steve Martin’s 60 minute intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUP7Zgeuck. For a more in depth introduction use the IzzyVideo tutorials. The version is a bit dated but the principles are the same. 


Ripple has excellent courses for FCP and other applications and many free videos on YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/c/rippleguys

Apr 19, 2023 5:08 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Oh man... I hate to be such a tool... and keep asking more and more questions, but... I am not sure what you mean when you say...


That’s the only way you can export transparency from FCP.

You can’t do it directly from FCP.


So, I need to film the whole thing.

Use the Keyer efffect in FCP to remove the background.

Then... I have NO CHOICE... I must export using the 4444 or 4444 XQ video codec which till generate a MASSIVE file.

Then... you say this...


Right click on your exported ProRes 4444 file and select Encode Video file. Select HEVC and check on Preserve Transparency.


Do you mean...

In Final Cut Pro, create a new Library/Event/Project...

Import the MASSIVE .mov file that I made (above)

And then... from within the Browser of FCP, I need to right click... and select your HEVC... and... Preserve Transpacency...?


Forgive me for being a glib. But IMO Apple does not do anyone any favors with their naming conventionsL Library/Event/Project/Export/Share...


I need step-by-step a little bit.



Apr 19, 2023 9:40 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I'll just have to read about it through a Google search I guess. I did what you said.

I exported the "keyed" video using the 4444 vodec.

Then from within Finder, I right-clicked on it... selected the same settings you posted, with the Pres. Transparency option checked. And when I clicked Next... or Go... (can't remember... maybe "OK")... I noticed that two new small Zero Byte files appeared. But... the large file I'd created using the 4444 still had a solid black back ground when I viewed it in Quicktime player or FCP.


I think I just don't know what any of that is. HVEC... 4444... 4444 XQ... etc.

Apr 21, 2023 1:46 PM in response to Ian R. Brown

You are absolutely correct. I was being impatient. Well... in my defense... Apple does an absolutely dreadful job of telling its users what is happening... if anything.


All it would take is to add these two words... "In progress..."

But if you go back and do the same process that you just described, you will notice that there is ZERO indication from the software that anything is even happening.


The same is even true within Final Cut Pro. You go to... Share (BARF!!! Please just change this to Export!!!)... and once you've begun the Export... (barf... "Share)... there is almost no indication that something is even happening. After some Google searching, reading some forums, and watching a couple of YouTube videos... I finally was able to find out that I can go to: Window > Background tasks... and THEN... I can see that something was in deed happening. My project was "in progress..." of being exported... I mean... (barf) "Shared.)


I am beginning to wonder how Apple is able to maintain such a strong following amongst professionals. I completely understand why every high school sophomore lover her iPhone... but... I am begining to seriously not even understand at all why professionals are willing to keep using FCP, Motion, and even basic macOS... considering all the, "What in the actual ****" moments I keep running into now that I am suddenly using a Mac as my primary work machine.



Apr 22, 2023 2:59 AM in response to Dolmetscher

Dolmetscher wrote:

You are absolutely correct. I was being impatient. Well... in my defense... Apple does an absolutely dreadful job of telling its users what is happening... if anything.

All it would take is to add these two words... "In progress..."
But if you go back and do the same process that you just described, you will notice that there is ZERO indication from the software that anything is even happening.


Sorry, but you are wrong. Whenever you launch a Service (aka "Quick Action") that does not otherwise have any user interface, THERE IS a visual indication that it is working. In the menu bar, this thing appears (and it is rotating, too - I could have posted a gif, but now that you know it's there you can see for yourself).


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