FontBook Third Party Managed Fonts

at some point I installed a Third party application to manage my fonts to see if it would help with the long list of always installed system fonts. I decided to delete the third party tool, however, Fonts Managed by Third Party Tool is still there and any font I add to automatically added to that group! I would like them to just be in my user font list.

I hope this was clear.


thanks, Maria

Posted on Apr 22, 2023 8:21 PM

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Posted on Apr 22, 2023 8:48 PM

There are three locations for fonts:


macOS System Fonts (you can't touch these)

/System/Library/Fonts


All user fonts

/Library/Fonts


Each user fonts

/Users/<user>/Library/Fonts


In Font Book Settings -> Sidebar you can enable showing all three.


In the Font Book Settings -> Installation you can install by default to Current User or All Users or any Libraries you created in Font Book.


I suspect the 3rd Party font management tool created a Library and that is set as the default installation location. You'll want to move the fonts to Current User (My Fonts). I think your terminology usage of "Group" would actually be a Library.


Collections are more like tags in that it filters the list to show members of the collection but adding or removing to or from a collection or a smart collection doesn't move the actual font in My Fonts, All User Fonts, or any Library.


In Font Book Settings -> Advanced there's a checkbox for "Show fonts managed by non-Apple utilities" which results in adding another font list called "Third-party Managed Fonts".


Click the Help menu in Font Book, it has pretty decent documentation that explains a great deal.

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Apr 22, 2023 8:48 PM in response to digitaldaisy

There are three locations for fonts:


macOS System Fonts (you can't touch these)

/System/Library/Fonts


All user fonts

/Library/Fonts


Each user fonts

/Users/<user>/Library/Fonts


In Font Book Settings -> Sidebar you can enable showing all three.


In the Font Book Settings -> Installation you can install by default to Current User or All Users or any Libraries you created in Font Book.


I suspect the 3rd Party font management tool created a Library and that is set as the default installation location. You'll want to move the fonts to Current User (My Fonts). I think your terminology usage of "Group" would actually be a Library.


Collections are more like tags in that it filters the list to show members of the collection but adding or removing to or from a collection or a smart collection doesn't move the actual font in My Fonts, All User Fonts, or any Library.


In Font Book Settings -> Advanced there's a checkbox for "Show fonts managed by non-Apple utilities" which results in adding another font list called "Third-party Managed Fonts".


Click the Help menu in Font Book, it has pretty decent documentation that explains a great deal.

Apr 23, 2023 6:47 AM in response to James Brickley

Hi James,

Thanks for your reply.

It took a while and I believe I finally found the software that was causing fonts to be shown in the "Third-Party Managed Fonts" instead of "My Fonts," which is my preference in Font Book.

I scoured my library to find any traces of third-party font management I had installed. I restarted my computer and all my fonts were in "My Fonts" Hazzah!

I then launched a frequently used design application "Silhouette Studio," and all self-installed fonts were moved to "Third-Party Managed Fonts"

I guess, in the end, it is not a problem, as I still have access to all of my fonts. I just had no idea that Silhouette Studio "managed fonts" :-) I thought it was due to some preference that lingered from my third-party font management dabbling.

Silhouette Studio was the application that had me on the search to manage fonts in the first place, as it shows all the fonts that other applications suppress, i.e. Noto Sans, etc.

Thanks again for your time and help.




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