Do I still need to unjailbreak my phone before going to the store?

Hacking an iPhone is only "legal" in regards to potential copyright issues.

Hacking an iPhone for any reason is against Apple's license agreement for the iPhone, is not supported by Apple directly or indirectly via these discussions, and voids the warranty.

None of this will change if you choose to hack your iPhone.

They still will probably not touch a jailbroken iPhone.

"I know that recently jailbreaking phones became legal...but that doesn't mean Apple ******** it."

No.

NOTHING has changed in regards to jailbreaking, except that the court system has removed the $5,000 fine as punishment if convicted.

As Allan says, it still voids the warranty and is a violation of the software license agreement.

Simply put it into DFU mode, or click restore in itunes.
It will remove cydia and yours fine, there is no way for them to tell it was jailbroken.
Done it a few times.

Yea put it in DFU and restore it back to normal. Apple won't notice that you jailbroke your phone.

I have done this with my sister's iphone, it was jailbroken, but her screen went pure white so no functionality there. And no this white screen did not happen from jailbreaking, she happened to drop her phone that caused the white screen. Luckily we restored her iphone back to it's factory setting, and took it to the genius bar. The replaced it for free of course.

Allan Sampson wrote:
Hacking an iPhone is only "legal" in regards to potential copyright issues.

Hacking an iPhone for any reason is against Apple's license agreement for the iPhone, is not supported by Apple directly or indirectly via these discussions, and voids the warranty.

None of this will change if you choose to hack your iPhone.

Jailbreaking is considered "Fair Use" by our government and this is the one and only meaningful sense in which it is legal. It is legal, period. Any discussion of license agreements has nothing to do with the legality of jailbreaking.

Apple can have their own terms of use/license agreement and it can (and does) go beyond what the government will allow/disallow. But you risk no civil or criminal penalties for jailbreaking.

And... as already discussed, jailbreaking is not a physical act, not permanent, and you can unjailbreak at any time and Apple would be clueless.

So do that.

Warranty-shmarranty.

(Wondering when this thread gets deleted)

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Apple can have their own terms of use/license agreement and it can (and does) go beyond what the government will allow/disallow. But you risk no civil or criminal penalties for jailbreaking.

No kidding. There would be no criminal penalties regardless, it would be a civil penalty only. Not once over the last 3 years did Apple take anyone to court over hacking an iPhone - not once. Not worth their time or effort just as I don't recall any reports about Microslop taking someone to court over installing a single user license copy of Windows on more than one PC.

Allan Sampson wrote:

Apple can have their own terms of use/license agreement and it can (and does) go beyond what the government will allow/disallow. But you risk no civil or criminal penalties for jailbreaking.

No kidding. There would be no criminal penalties regardless, it would be a civil penalty only. Not once over the last 3 years did Apple take anyone to court over hacking an iPhone - not once. Not worth their time or effort just as I don't recall any reports about Microslop taking someone to court over installing a single user license copy of Windows on more than one PC.

Of course not; neither Apple nor Microsoft has any business interest in scaring it's customers away. That behavior is reserved for the RIAA.

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I haven't read any reports about the RIAA taking anyone to court over the last 3 years for hacking an iPhone either, so hacking being legal in regards to not facing a potential civil penalty is a non-issue, but this doesn't change anything in regards to being against Apple's license agreement for the iPhone, not being supported by Apple, and voiding the warranty if it can be determined that an iPhone was hacked and the hack caused a problem.

It hasn't been illegal for someone to unlock a carrier locked phone for quite some time, but a cell phone manufacturer or the carrier the phone is carrier locked with is not obligated by law to unlock the phone or support it.

Question. i know the whole apple doesn't acknowledge jb iPhones it violates software blah blah blah

But if it's a hardware issue why can't warranty be honored if it has nothing to do with software issues? I've always wondered this.

wiked1r wrote:
Question. i know the whole apple doesn't acknowledge jb iPhones it violates software blah blah blah

But if it's a hardware issue why can't warranty be honored if it has nothing to do with software issues? I've always wondered this.

I've never heard of any anecdotes where people have brought in jailbroken Apple devices and been denied service. My guess is they would either not notice, or they'd just pretend they didn't. Maybe if a Genius had a bad day he'd unjailbreak it.

The folks who work in Apple store are... wait for it... PEOPLE! I bet as many of them jailbreak their phones as people in the general population. They won't provide guidance or support on circumventing their terms of use, but that doesn't mean Apple leans on these people to be the jailbreak police.

Anyone can jump in and say "oh yeah it's happened to me, they took my iPhone away and banned me from the Apple Store" and prove me wrong...

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to be honest since its not illegal to do, apple has to prove that your modification caused the problem, if its a software problem i would reformat but if its clearly a hardware problem (microfracture, bad speakers, so on) then apple should have to support there hardware.

Legionofone wrote:
to be honest since its not illegal to do, apple has to prove that your modification caused the problem, if its a software problem i would reformat but if its clearly a hardware problem (microfracture, bad speakers, so on) then apple should have to support there hardware.

That may seem logical but it isn't the way the world works. In the software company I work for (a very typical one) we warrant our software when used as intended, designed, and (most importantly) warranted. We are not obligated to fix something otherwise, and we don't have to prove that the unintended and/or unwarranted use actually caused, or even contributed, to the problem in question. In other words, if we say you can't do something, and you do it anyway, you're on your own.

That's life. Apple can deny warranty service for a variety of reasons, and violation of terms of use is one of them. No arguing around it.

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