Screen Time Settings

This worked for me

AJ_002 wrote:

Give it a try on a device that has limited screen time. There is no way to stop it. Even apple does not have a solution.

Most efforts to keep kids corralled are just simplistic, futile, and doomed to failure. Pretty much all of it. Not just Screen Time. Everything.

Any kid sufficiently inclined will bypass all of this, and on an allowance-scale budget. Whether it’s shoulder surfing of passwords, or rogue network connections, complete bypasses, unknown devices added, MAC cloning, or the sorts of Android or iPhone or iPad bypasses that quickly get communicated around, these efforts will fail.

I routinely deal with system and network security. Even with higher-end system and networking gear, expect to fail. Expect some clever bypasses, too.

AJ_002 wrote:

It’s actually for all devices using screen time.

I’ve yet to encounter security measures that parents or educators can set up, and that kids can’t bypass.

And there are allowance-scale bypasses for everything. Any kid sufficiently inclined can and will bypass.

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It seems simple enough. Block what I tell you to block!!! If you can’t do it, then why make parents feel they can put restrictions on it?!? Total scam.

However, in the "Content & Privacy Restrictions," there is no "Location Services" to tap that would bring me to "System Services."

Ok. This only stops them from changing the ‘time zone’. they can still change actual time.

Help!

YES! Apple needs to make parental settings easier to implement and navigate. It is so very frustrating that they “provide” these services that do not work! Our kids are being allowed to browse a corrupt internet while we think we’ve put restrictions on. Apple… IT DOES NOT WORK!!!! 🤬🤬🤬 fix it!

Simple this stuff is not. Any kid inclined to bypass parental controls can and will bypass all such controls. On an allowance-scale budget. What does that mean? Uncomfortable and unwanted discussions are the option, particularly when the kid is unwilling to acquiesce.

Parental controls are useful for keeping non-technical users from corrupting settings. Some folks, for instance, can poke at settings seemingly randomly, and parental controls and management profiles can be useful for keeping necessary settings correct and functional.

Parental controls as a defensive measure against a determined and resourceful adversary, not so much.

The settings are no longer available to restrict date time changes and without good restrictions, they will be on phone for hours a day. MrHoffman.. yes kids do try everything to bypass but does that mean we parents just give up? if we are given with sufficient support from apple then at least we can try save their eyes and brains with downtime.. once they are teenagers, they better understand or worse but looks like apple does not want us parents to protect our kids.

phani64 wrote:

The settings are no longer available to restrict date time changes and without good restrictions, they will be on phone for hours a day. MrHoffman.. yes kids do try everything to bypass but does that mean we parents just give up?

Again, all such blocks can be bypassed. Trivially. And on an allowance-scale budget, if the kid is inclined.

Your kid is already better at this task than you are. And they probably haven’t yet deployed the full bypasses, or haven’t told you about using those.

Maybe it’s time to encourage and channel these abilities. Switch tactics. As the story goes, if your kid sneaks books to read while in bed, you can choose to punish them for the transgression, or you can keep fresh batteries in their flashlight. Yours is already becoming adept at IT. Maybe you enlist them to help with the IT here, and with the security here? And as part of that, showing them where there are problems and risks, and why. And learning IT from them, too.

You can either choose to recognize and adapt to the limits of the technology, and to your own strengths and limits, and to those of your kid, or you can rail against it. Your choice.

Put more succinctly (and avoiding Clausewitz 😉), kids have agency.

Hi there!

I would mention this on the feedback app of the device in question. It will run a sysdiagnose which should detect what was done to circumvent that feature.

Hope that helps,

Adin

As an update, I finally figured out that the "Location Services" setting is on the child's iPhone and not the parent's iPhone. I'm going to give this a go and see how it works.

This doesn’t work. She can still change the time. HELP please!