Unable to Share AirTag

It seems odd to me that I can share my iPhone location with my entire family which will indicate where I am (quite sensitive to some people ), but I’m not able to share my AirTags which are attached to all keys of the house and some others objects.


Now if anyone take the keys out the AirTags beep (sometimes in quiet places) and they get notifications on their phone that they are being tracked, that’s just bad design.


im almost giving up and going for other options, this is so terrible


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Posted on May 13, 2023 4:09 AM

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Posted on May 13, 2023 5:41 AM

If truly interested, we could delve into the privacy and technical considerations behind “why” …


… but suffice to say, that any AirTag is locatable ONLY by using FindMy on the Trusted Devices of the paired AppleID.


It’s location can’t be “shared” w/ other AppleIDs.


For more detail; see these articles:


Find My security – Apple Support (AU)


and


Using Find My to locate missing Apple devices – Apple Support (AU)



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May 13, 2023 5:41 AM in response to Rodrigo Fante

If truly interested, we could delve into the privacy and technical considerations behind “why” …


… but suffice to say, that any AirTag is locatable ONLY by using FindMy on the Trusted Devices of the paired AppleID.


It’s location can’t be “shared” w/ other AppleIDs.


For more detail; see these articles:


Find My security – Apple Support (AU)


and


Using Find My to locate missing Apple devices – Apple Support (AU)



May 13, 2023 6:50 AM in response to Rodrigo Fante

Ok … read the articles.


It’s all about hiding the identity of the “annonomous participants” in the locating process.


It starts w/ the Airtag; has no clue as to where it is and very little ability to communicate.


It sends a beacon only intermittantly to save power.


The beacon is received by anyone/everyone in range … but they don’t know - and can’t discover - who the Airtag belongs to.


These “anyones/everyones” forward the AirTag’s ID and their own location to Apple encrypted w/ the AirTag’s public key.


All of this encrypted data goes into a “Big Apple FindMy Pot” but Apple can’t read ANY of the identity or locating info. (Apple can’t inadvertently compromise “data” they never have)


Now YOUR devices know the ID of your tag as well as the date/time.


They essentially reach in to Apple’s pot and pull out data which might be yours.


FindMy then - on your device - successfully decrypts only YOUR tag’s info w/ your PRIVATE key - which resides ONLY on your device. (it’s transferred during the initial pairing process)


Now, you have no way of knowing WHO reported the tag’s location, only that “someone” did.


So, since all “locating” relies on decrypting data with a private key which resides ONLY on your devices, only YOU can see the location.

May 13, 2023 8:10 AM in response to Rodrigo Fante

Of course it was a “business decision” … EVERYTHING is.


Any decision-making was undoubtedly also heavily influenced by privacy concerns.


Sharing private keys is pretty problematic; but there are no doubt other alternatives possible for secure sharing between cooperating users.


But we’re just guessing at hypotheticals w/o any real basis for doing so.


The inability to share is def a First World problem.

Sep 24, 2023 5:46 AM in response to Yrma2000

It wasn’t “some random” internet article - it was Apple’s best publicly-available reference describing how how the AirTags work.


There’s no need for it to be be restated in “my own words” — although it WAS significantly expanded at the OPs request 2 posts down — when a high-quality, eminently-readable, Apple-published document already provides an authoritative explanation.


However, it’s now somewhat OBE with the “Sharing” feature in iOS 17. (Any initial roll-out “growing pains” notwithstanding)


(This capability was no doubt enabled by the mostly “behind the scenes” cryptographic architectural advances Apple has been rolling-out in their OSs of late)

May 13, 2023 7:07 AM in response to Rodrigo Fante

it's likely by design, likely related to all the stalking and social control concerns their airpods have gotten


This is a user forum, you are not addressing apple here just fellow users


so the best you can get here is guesswork


you can try contacting apple Support ->  Get Support (apple.com) / Contact - Official Apple

Support


and or give them feedback -> Product Feedback - Apple



May 13, 2023 7:03 AM in response to Chattanoogan

And all that’s quite impressive, but as a software developer I don’t see anything in what you described that would prevent me to add a feature to share an private key to a group of “owners” of an AirTag, I’m not saying it’s simple, but it’s not a huge thing, especially for Apple.


Plus, do you think that the reason is merely technical? That’s technically impossible to share with the current architecture with more than one person?


I’m pretty sure this is a business decision and the answer I was looking for lies in what I don’t see, the business reason Apple might have to not allow the device to be shared.


There may be valid reasons for it, but I’m yet to see it.


Anyway, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer technically in details how the whole process works currently, thank you.

May 13, 2023 7:11 AM in response to Rudegar

I did reach them already (no answer received), and please, I really appreciate all answers and the debate here.


By all means, if anyone has another theory, please do share.


I just think the privacy one doesn’t make sense when Apple allow us to share and iPhone location which to me is 1000x more sensible information.


As long you need to consent to be in the family, I see no difference between the AirTag, Apple Watch and iPhone in this matter

May 13, 2023 7:32 AM in response to Rodrigo Fante

It does not really matter whether we agree with you or not, Apple is the decision maker here.


We can debate on what Apple could do, and even if they could do it whether they should do it, but the conversation will go nowhere useful as long as we are dealing with hypotheticals....and Apple is not participating in the discussion.


There is only so much that we can accomplish on a user-to-user forum.





Sep 21, 2023 6:02 AM in response to Rodrigo Fante

We had the same issue. One of our devices (phones) had the FindMy settings messed up. Once the settings were exactly as the AirTag owners, we were then able to share. If you set the settings exactly the same as the AirTag owner and you still have an issue, look into the Screen Time settings. You wouldn’t believe the amount of stuff you can mess up with the Screen Time settings on. Good luck

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