Internet access for OS Tiger 10.4.11

May 16, 2023. I know that there are no browsers around for my PowerMac G4 running Tiger 10.4.11. Is there some other way to gain internet access? What is actually stopping the access? Is it the browser or the mother board or O.S.? Or does someone need to write code for another legacy browser?

Example: As I understand it, I can purchase a mini computer to put a desktop on my cheap flat screen TV. Is there some kind of physical equipment that could could be used to grant access to the World Wide Web from my PowerMac? I've got to believe there is a market for this. Either software or add on hardware.

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Posted on May 16, 2023 12:35 PM

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Posted on May 16, 2023 12:54 PM

The actual access to the internet is controlled by hardware not a browser.


Your Tiger Mac should be able to connect to the Internet via ethernet or compatible wi-fi through your router.

Even your old web browser should still be able to access certain very old and not updated websites.


Once connected, using a web browser is only one way of accessing content for the internet.

Yes, to access web sites you need a browser that can open them, and most browsers that work on a Mac running Tiger, would no longer be able to open regular websites that are using current technologies to produce the website and its content, the browser has no knowledge of.


Unlike a TV, the Power Mac cannot simply receive a video input and display its content. The boxes used with TVs are in and of themselves computers that send a video signal to the TV. The Mac is also itself a computer, and what you are asking amounts to connecting a new computer to your old computer.

Any reasons you need to use your Power Mac to access the internet?

Also, what exactly do you want to accomplish by doing this?

There may be an easier way to do what you want.


For now, you can use http://frogfind.com to browse the internet using your very old web browser on your Tiger Mac, it will attempt to translate most websites to something that web browser can interpret and show.

Don't expect full functionality of all the websites however.

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May 16, 2023 12:54 PM in response to kathix

The actual access to the internet is controlled by hardware not a browser.


Your Tiger Mac should be able to connect to the Internet via ethernet or compatible wi-fi through your router.

Even your old web browser should still be able to access certain very old and not updated websites.


Once connected, using a web browser is only one way of accessing content for the internet.

Yes, to access web sites you need a browser that can open them, and most browsers that work on a Mac running Tiger, would no longer be able to open regular websites that are using current technologies to produce the website and its content, the browser has no knowledge of.


Unlike a TV, the Power Mac cannot simply receive a video input and display its content. The boxes used with TVs are in and of themselves computers that send a video signal to the TV. The Mac is also itself a computer, and what you are asking amounts to connecting a new computer to your old computer.

Any reasons you need to use your Power Mac to access the internet?

Also, what exactly do you want to accomplish by doing this?

There may be an easier way to do what you want.


For now, you can use http://frogfind.com to browse the internet using your very old web browser on your Tiger Mac, it will attempt to translate most websites to something that web browser can interpret and show.

Don't expect full functionality of all the websites however.

May 18, 2023 9:02 AM in response to kathix

Web browsers for Mac are software, not firmware. They install on your hard drive just like any other app.


I've used TenFourFox for two G4 PowerPC Macs, one running Tiger and the other running Leopard. That browser is no longer being supported or updated, but gives some basic level of access.


Get ONLY from the official site: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tenfourfox/


It does not allow plug-ins so you cannot watch videos. Also, few web sites are optimized for PowerPC processors any more; page rendering can be as slow as dialup even on our fast cable internet connection. It is definitely not suitable for heavy duty use. It allows "limp-home" at best mode and not much more as more and more sites drop support for ancient macOS versions.


Or does someone need to write code for another legacy browser?


The fact that the noble crew who valiantly stuck with continued evolution of TenFourFox for so long have now washed their hands of it says to me, "won't happen."

May 21, 2023 9:20 AM in response to kathix

kathix wrote:

Allen, I asked the question basically because I love to fix up and keep old things going. Aside from that, I am a retired Graphic Artist and I have graphic software on this old Mac that today would be prohibitive for me to rent or purchase today. The older software does the same thing as the newer, minus some bells and whistles and huge fees.


I am 100% there with you and fully understand. Our house looks like a Old Mac Museum.


I'm a retired engineer and tech publications manager. My dual-boot G4 MDD 2003 survives because it has a perfectly good copy of Adobe CS2 and an ancient CAD program that formats new tech dwgs I create to be identical to the existing ones dating to 2002. Newer CAD apps would require redrawing the entire library. As a man with 3/4 of a centurey behind him, I'll probably not last long enough above ground to re-render hundreds of dwgs!


I have the Affinity suite on a newer Mac but the learning curve is, I swear, steeper than that for CS! Maybe it is my age!


Still I don't use the internet on the G4. I send files to the newer Macs over the home network if any need uploading


Regards,


Allan

May 20, 2023 5:12 PM in response to Allan Jones

Allen, I asked the question basically because I love to fix up and keep old things going. Aside from that, I am a retired Graphic Artist and I have graphic software on this old Mac that today would be prohibitive for me to rent or purchase today. The older software does the same thing as the newer, minus some bells and whistles and huge fees. I occasionally will do some graphic work such as logos or photos that no else can do. When it is necessary to go on line to find a photo or cartoon, I use my Dell XPS PC, load it on a thumb drive and transfer it over to the G4. Believe it or not, I still have two working G3 towers that are connected to high-end scanners with SCSI. They work fine. And before you say anything, I know I could network my Dells and Macs, but I am happy using thumb drives. To sum up, I suppose the reason I want to make the most of my old Macs is the same reason people collect and restore old cars.

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