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I am running FCPX on a Mac Studio M1 Ultra with 4TB SSD and 64GB of RAM. My FCPX projects are based on 6k video files optimised to Pro Res (I need the quality high for specific editing needs) and therefore need to be on an external drive as they are often 5-7TB each project. They won’t fit onto my SSD so are on an external drive. This is a LaCie Big Dock2 32gb but is a HDD linked to the Mac Studio with a Thunderbolt 4 cable. I am not seeing any improved rendering speeds with the Mac Studio over my old 2017 iMac and I presume this is due to the speed limitations of the LaCie HDD. Any advice on how I can set up the disks or Final Cut to get the best performance from the Mac Studio with such big projects?

Mac Studio, macOS 13.4

Posted on May 29, 2023 6:53 AM

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Posted on Jun 12, 2023 8:29 AM

The answer to my issue may be obvious to some but it wasn't to me and therefore may not be obvious to others too. Yes, the new Macs may be extraordinarily fast and able to run multiple 8k timelines concurrently ... but only if they're running off the same SSD. And that SSD better be humungous. HDDs just don't cut it, even with Thunderbolt 4 connectivity. The performance improvement from a 2017 Intel iMac to a M1 Ultra Mac Studio using the same HDD was minimal. I eventually came up with 3 options to fix my issue:


Option 1: Don't create optimised video files on import. Only optimise the media you need for a specific edit and then delete the optimised files once the edit is completed. This way you may be able to contain the size of your library to fit on the SSD of your Mac and get all the benefits associated with the faster chips and drive. Depending on your original media you may even be able to edit without optimising, although it seems export will be much slower. Certainly don't shoot in ProRes - the files will be too big for any SSD. This gets a but messy and adds extra work rather than working off a fully optimised media but it solves the HDD dilemma.


Option 2: Keep the original and optimised media on the HDD and the Library files on the Mac SSD. This seemed to speed up the editing process and at least meant all the optimised media was retained. Less hassle than Option 1 but slower responses times as the HDD is still being accessed over Thunderbolt 4.


Option 3: Buy a 8TB SSD, stick it in an enclosure and link it to the Mac via Thunderbolt 4. Then just run your Library from the external SSD. Very expensive but the improvement in editing speeds has been enormous. I can finally see why the Mac Studio M1 Ultra is the beast it's meant to be. Still a little slower than using an internal SSD but cheaper than buying the 8TB SSD from Apple and I now have the equivalent of 12TB of SSD. I can now edit as I want to, albeit at a huge additional cost.


Good job I'm not filming in 8K ...

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Jun 12, 2023 8:29 AM in response to Birdvid_57

The answer to my issue may be obvious to some but it wasn't to me and therefore may not be obvious to others too. Yes, the new Macs may be extraordinarily fast and able to run multiple 8k timelines concurrently ... but only if they're running off the same SSD. And that SSD better be humungous. HDDs just don't cut it, even with Thunderbolt 4 connectivity. The performance improvement from a 2017 Intel iMac to a M1 Ultra Mac Studio using the same HDD was minimal. I eventually came up with 3 options to fix my issue:


Option 1: Don't create optimised video files on import. Only optimise the media you need for a specific edit and then delete the optimised files once the edit is completed. This way you may be able to contain the size of your library to fit on the SSD of your Mac and get all the benefits associated with the faster chips and drive. Depending on your original media you may even be able to edit without optimising, although it seems export will be much slower. Certainly don't shoot in ProRes - the files will be too big for any SSD. This gets a but messy and adds extra work rather than working off a fully optimised media but it solves the HDD dilemma.


Option 2: Keep the original and optimised media on the HDD and the Library files on the Mac SSD. This seemed to speed up the editing process and at least meant all the optimised media was retained. Less hassle than Option 1 but slower responses times as the HDD is still being accessed over Thunderbolt 4.


Option 3: Buy a 8TB SSD, stick it in an enclosure and link it to the Mac via Thunderbolt 4. Then just run your Library from the external SSD. Very expensive but the improvement in editing speeds has been enormous. I can finally see why the Mac Studio M1 Ultra is the beast it's meant to be. Still a little slower than using an internal SSD but cheaper than buying the 8TB SSD from Apple and I now have the equivalent of 12TB of SSD. I can now edit as I want to, albeit at a huge additional cost.


Good job I'm not filming in 8K ...

Jun 11, 2023 3:04 AM in response to Meg The Dog

Yes the videos play fine in the browser and on the timeline (better in the former than on old iMac). I am often applying multiple effects including stabilisation, fit-to-fill (on a 4K timeline), scaling, exposure and colour changes, titles etc. I understand Tom's (and presumably your) view that rendering is not not required, however I export numerous relatively short videos and this takes at least twice as long if the timeline has not been rendered than if I export a rendered timeline. I have measured this.


The issue is clearly that camera technology regarding 6K and 8K footage has overtaken the capacity of HDDs to manage the huge file sizes involved. SSDs are the answer but of course they are much more expensive and generally offer smaller capacities.


I have worked out three ways of making this work with the huge file sizes involved, some of which may be obvious but either require work arounds or expense. When I've worked through them I will publish them here.

Jun 10, 2023 11:51 AM in response to Birdvid_57

When you place your 6K videos on the 6K timeline, do they play satisfactorily without rendering?

What action of yours causes rendering to be required?

Are you applying multiple effects to the clip? What effects are they?

Are the projects located on the internal SSD?

Is your Cache set to the Library on your internal SSD?

What does

Birdvid_57 wrote:
And it isn't just rendering - applying any effect takes much longer than I had expected with such a fast piece of kit.

Do you mean their is a lag before the effect appears on the clip?


MtD

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