Smart Mailbox

My Smart Mailboxes disappear (won't save) after I close out Mail. I'm using Ventura 13.4.

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 12.6

Posted on Jun 10, 2023 7:01 AM

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Posted on Jun 10, 2023 8:53 AM

These steps were recommended by a Community Specialist.


Boot your Mac into safe mode:

How to use safe mode on your Mac


Create a new Smart Mailbox on your Mac using the steps in this link:

Use Smart Mailboxes in Mail on Mac


Once you’ve done that, rebuild your mailboxes using the steps here:

Rebuild mailboxes in Mail on Mac


See if your Smart Mailboxes remain after this.


I hope this helps.

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Jun 10, 2023 8:53 AM in response to Dave Copp

These steps were recommended by a Community Specialist.


Boot your Mac into safe mode:

How to use safe mode on your Mac


Create a new Smart Mailbox on your Mac using the steps in this link:

Use Smart Mailboxes in Mail on Mac


Once you’ve done that, rebuild your mailboxes using the steps here:

Rebuild mailboxes in Mail on Mac


See if your Smart Mailboxes remain after this.


I hope this helps.

Jun 10, 2023 10:40 AM in response to Dave Copp

First, there is no reason to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac.  This documents describe what you need to know and do in order to protect your Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community and Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support calls, and other scams - Apple Support.  


There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs.  There are, however, adware and malware which require the user to install although unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.   


Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad campaigns of fear.  They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating the adware and malware.  Since there are no viruses these apps use up a lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely affect system and app performance.


There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware and known malware and remove it.  The free version is more than adequate for most users.  


Which app is it. I recommend uninstalling it according to the developer's instructions. Then you can check to see if you've removed all of the supporting files by downloading and running the shareware app Find Any File to search for any files with the application's or the developer's name in the file name.  For XXXX software you'd do the following search(es): 


1 - Name contains XXXX


Any files that are found can be dragged from the search results window to the Desktop or Trash bin in the Dock for deletion.


FAF can search areas that Spotlight can't like invisible folders, system folders and packages.  


If you get warnings that the file can't be deleted because it is in use or used by another app boot into Safe Mode according to How to use safe mode on your Mac and delete from there.


Note:  if you have a wireless keyboard with rechargeable batteries connect it with its charging cable before booting into Safe Mode.  This makes it act as a wired keyboard as will assure a successful boot into Safe Mode.



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