Mac is moving my drives icons on the desktop when I put it to sleep

I have my disk drives (all SSDs) arranged in the upper right corner of my desktop on my M2 Mac mini running Ventura 13.4.1. If I put the Mac to sleep using the Sleep option in the Apple Menu and wait 30 seconds or so and wake it back up, the icons have been drastically moved around.


Here's a picture of the corner of the desktop before putting the Mac to sleep:


And here's what it looks like after I put the Mac to sleep and wait 30 seconds or so before tapping the shift key to wake it up:


What the heck is going on? It has been doing this for a while and it is driving me even more crazy than I normally am!


LewK

Mac mini, macOS 13.4

Posted on Jun 26, 2023 3:28 PM

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Posted on Oct 5, 2023 5:43 AM

Thanks to all those who have been looking into this issue! I have done some more testing and have come up with an idea of what is happening in my particular case.


I'm using a 4K monitor and what I've noticed for a while is that the Mac seems to be handling the 4K monitor as if it was four 2K monitors. Examples of this behavior is that if I put the Mac to sleep and later wake it up, windows that were full height on the monitor are now half height. This applied to Music, Safari, etc.. I don't recall if the width changed as I seldom need the windows to be wider than half of the screen.


What I finally did that really showed this might be the cause of the issue is I moved all the icons on my desktop other than the single, far right column over to the far left side of the screen. So my screen had a bunch of files and folders on the left of the screen and a single, full height column on the far right of the screen and started some testing:


1) When I put the Mac to sleep and woke it up, the drive icons moved.

2) I moved all the none drive icons to the left half of the screen, put the Mac to sleep and woke it up, the drive icons stayed where they had been.

3) I started moving files from the left to back under the drive icons, a couple at a time. When I did the sleep-wake cycle, the drive icons stayed where they were - UNTIL I had file or folder icons extending below the top half of the screen!


Eureka! :-)


With the grid size I had selected, I was able to have 24 icons in a column. When there were 12 icons in the right column things stayed put. But if there were 13, the very top drive icon would move. If there were 14, the top 2 drive icons would move. Etc..


So my conclusion is that there is a problem with how either MacOS or the M2 graphics system is handling a 4K screen. I need to do some further testing comparing how my M1 mini and M2 mini handle this issue. But I'm currently on a trip and don't have either system available to test with.


If you aren't using a 4K monitor and are having this sort of issue, I'm not sure what the underlying cause might be. But I suspect the same sort of thing would happen with an 8K monitor as well, although I have no idea if it would happen with a column half the height or a quarter of the height of the screen.


By the way, my 4K monitor is just a 42" diagonal 4K TV monitor, not specifically a computer monitor. The reason for that is that with my eyes, I can actually use the screen without my reading glasses if I'm more than about 3' from the screen. The monitor is mounted on a corner countertop as far back as it can fit and that works out to let me sit normally and be just a bit more than 3' from the screen so my 71 year old eyes don't need my readers. :-)


Lew

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Sep 30, 2023 4:41 AM in response to ehm1rt13

Until I upgraded my Mac Studio to Sonoma from Ventura a few days ago, my disk icons did stay put (even the one for the Time Machine disk which only appeared after Time Machine completed its job on bootstrap). Now, with Sonoma, disk icons keep moving around the right-hand edge of my screen and I keep putting them back. Something's broken somewhere... I also have file icons overlap one another, which I had neve seen before...


But, since the upgrade my system boots much faster then before; a tradeoff I'm ready to accept.

Oct 12, 2023 7:43 PM in response to Lewis Kopp

My Mac M2 Studio is doing this also. DId it on my old 4k displayport monitor and also on my new 5k apply 27 studio display. It is only my icons in the bottom left corner doing it. Drives me crazy. I have done all you guys suggested and no luck. Did a timemachine migration to this computer a few months ago from my older m1 studio and then moved that computer somewhere else here. Not sure if that has something to do with it. The m1 does not do this. I am almost thinking of wiping this computer and starting again.

Mar 2, 2024 10:38 AM in response to Lewis Kopp

This is happening to me as well. It never happened with any of my previous Macs, but this recent one is a Mac Studio and it came with Ventura. After it wakes up, my drive icons move toward the bottom right. I do use a 4k monitor, so not sure if that has anything to do with this because I used the same 4k monitor on an older Mac when I was running Catalina and it didn't happen then. I think I read a fix somewhere about turning on hidden files, then deleting the .DS_Store from the Desktop or something like that. The theory being that the file could have gotten corrupted somehow. I had tried that at the time and it seemed to have fixed my problem for a couple of months. Unfortunately I didn't save the instructions or a link to the post with that fix either, and the problem came back. Now when I try, I don't see .DS_Store on my desktop anywhere, so I am probably missing a step.


I am not an expert, but here is my suspicion. If in fact it has to do with that hidden .DS_Store file (which I assume keeps track of icon positions), then could the fact that my Desktop being set to sync in iCloud have something to do with this? I'll try turning off iCloud Desktop and Documents Folders backup to see if this resolves it. Thoughts?

Oct 11, 2023 3:07 AM in response to Lewis Kopp

New Tac. So I have moved everything on my desktop over to the left of screen, it's not a lot, but now it's out of the way. My 6 drives I have lined up, one above the other, they used to occupy two rows of three, now one row of 6. Second day and they are behaving.

Doesn't help Lewis though ! his were in a straight line to begin with...

Is there a "Physical" size for a desktop icon ? when I tried to arrange everything else, over on the left of screen, some of them wouldn't go into line, they jumped to the right of line one, as if into the second line..., When I snapped to grid, then back to none, they lined up in a nice single row...

Nov 15, 2023 8:48 AM in response to ku4hx

Lol that's funny.. Spend $12K on a machine you should expect and icon to stay in place not float too a new location each time you restart the thing... If a $200 Dell can accomplish this an extremely pricey system should as well.. Glad you like a clean wallpaper, others want fast access to the things they use most :( Just had to rebut this post.....

Dec 19, 2023 6:20 PM in response to Lewis Kopp

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Apr 6, 2024 3:29 AM in response to Lewis Kopp

Apple should fix this.


I need my desktop to behave itself and do the very simple things, like displaying my icons where I put them, far, far more than I need to be able to link widgets to my mate's phone on the fly or whatever Apple's latest 'colouring in' fetish is.


A perfect example of breaking something important in the pursuit of something utterly inconsequential.

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