Trouble with external hard drive for Time Machine not recognised in Disk Utility

Hi all –


I have been using an external portable hard drive for TM for a few months until it failed a few days ago. I tried to connect it to ** to erase it but when I launch **, nothing appears in the window. If I unplug the disk, ** turns on and sees my Mac but when I plug my hard rive back in, it doesn't appear in the ** window.


I can feel the disk is spinning but it doesn't appear on the desktop or in **. I tried this on another Mac and using a different cable but it's still the same. Normally I'd think it was dead but also noticed when I go to System Settings, then Storage, the disk appears but doesn't show the storage area so I know it can be seen.


My issue is that I can't return the disk for a refund because I can't erase it. Can anyone suggest a way to erase it other than with **?


Thanks

Mac mini

Posted on Jul 26, 2023 7:20 AM

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Jul 26, 2023 12:41 PM in response to Justanothergeordie

Okay so I left ** running for several hours and the drive just appeared. I ran First Aid on the Container Disk and the TM disk within that and both came up with errors. However ** allowed me to erase the media and I've now re-set it up as my TM.


Given there were none of the usual clicking noises I've had in the past with other damaged drives, does anyone know if that means it's still okay to use?


Thanks

Aug 13, 2023 9:36 AM in response to Justanothergeordie

Justanothergeordie wrote:

Thanks for the reply. If I run FA from the bottom up, then:

– Volumes takes a while but is always okay
– Containers comes up with an error first after running a check quite quickly, then if I run it again it takes longer but is fine
– Device runs quickly and is always okay

I'm still at a loss if something's wrong somewhere on the disk or maybe the cable...?

The disk has already failed (at least once) and now you cannot get a repeatable clean run of Disk Utility First Aid. You should replace the drive. You can certainly try a new cable, but I doubt that is the problem.

Jul 26, 2023 9:16 PM in response to Justanothergeordie

When MacOS detects problems with an external drive, it will automatically run fsck (which is essentially the same as Disk Utility First Aid) on that drive, which can take a long time. After fsck completes, the disk may mount. However if the file system was not repairable, the disk may still have problems.


It sounds like this is going on with your drive. You can repeatedly reformat it, but you have already done that and errors return. This means that the device is not reliable and certainly should not be relied on for backups, which need to be bulletproof.

Jul 26, 2023 12:53 PM in response to Justanothergeordie

Sorry to keep posting but I'm still confused... When I open **, in the left hand panel I can see 3 names of the disks:


  1. "XXXXX EXTERNAL_USB Media"
  2. "Container disk6"
  3. "Backups of Mac mini"


I just ran First Aid again on each. Number 1 above was instantly fine. Number 2 gives an error each time. Number 3 (I'm guessing this is the contents of the disk), is also fine.


Does anyone know if the second error means there is something wrong with the disk or does it just need to be re-formatted?


Thanks again!

Aug 13, 2023 7:55 AM in response to Barney-15E

Thanks for the reply. If I run FA from the bottom up, then:


– Volumes takes a while but is always okay

– Containers comes up with an error first after running a check quite quickly, then if I run it again it takes longer but is fine

– Device runs quickly and is always okay


I'm still at a loss if something's wrong somewhere on the disk or maybe the cable...?

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