My Mac is connected to router but no internet access. My 2nd Mac has access!


  1. I have a Macbook Air from 2021
  2. The connection for Wlan is good. The laptop shows there is a good wlan connection.
  3. However, the laptop will only connect for a while and then I get the message, “no connection”. However, the laptop still shows there is a good wlan connection.
  4. I log myself out and the laptop starts again. I put in the password and there is an internet connection for a while and then it stops again. The connection can be for a 30 minutes or so, or just a few minutes.
  5. Then same again. Log myself out and login.


I have another Mac. The same MacBook Air. This Mac has no problems whatsoever!!!


MacBook Air 11″, macOS 11.7

Posted on Aug 13, 2023 12:15 PM

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Posted on Aug 15, 2023 11:44 AM

111KG wrote:

Many thanks!

I suspected it has something to do with either the Cleaner app. or the VPN.
I have already reinstalled the Mac Ventura but it didn't work.

You say erase! Would setting it back to original Factory Settings be best or erase and reinstall?


Back up, erase (however), and migrate files and documents and nor apps as part of the new macOS setup; with setup assistant during the install or migration assistant after.


I would encourage using the built-in security and scanning tools, and would generally discourage using add-on anti-malware (other than running endpoint security, where that is applicable), and add-on cleaner apps, and add-on VPNs save for specific use cases. I would encourage reloading other necessary apps from the app store or other known-good sources, and would exercise caution around torrents.


Cleaner apps can cause corruptions.


Add-on anti-malware is effectively indistinguishable from malware, given how it ties into the system. And some of the better-known anti-malware has had issues with false-positives—the built-in anti-malware has blocked false positives in add-on anti-malware from leading to corruptions—and some well-known add-on anti-malware has caused privacy issues, though Avast claims they stopped doing that, and Avast and AVG are now part of the same entity.


VPNs can cause routing issues, and too many have caused privacy issues.


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Aug 15, 2023 11:44 AM in response to 111KG

111KG wrote:

Many thanks!

I suspected it has something to do with either the Cleaner app. or the VPN.
I have already reinstalled the Mac Ventura but it didn't work.

You say erase! Would setting it back to original Factory Settings be best or erase and reinstall?


Back up, erase (however), and migrate files and documents and nor apps as part of the new macOS setup; with setup assistant during the install or migration assistant after.


I would encourage using the built-in security and scanning tools, and would generally discourage using add-on anti-malware (other than running endpoint security, where that is applicable), and add-on cleaner apps, and add-on VPNs save for specific use cases. I would encourage reloading other necessary apps from the app store or other known-good sources, and would exercise caution around torrents.


Cleaner apps can cause corruptions.


Add-on anti-malware is effectively indistinguishable from malware, given how it ties into the system. And some of the better-known anti-malware has had issues with false-positives—the built-in anti-malware has blocked false positives in add-on anti-malware from leading to corruptions—and some well-known add-on anti-malware has caused privacy issues, though Avast claims they stopped doing that, and Avast and AVG are now part of the same entity.


VPNs can cause routing issues, and too many have caused privacy issues.


Some related reading: Effective defenses against malware and ot… - Apple Community


Aug 13, 2023 12:52 PM in response to 111KG

There can be various causes. It might be a problem with the Wi-Fi router. Might be installed apps, too. There are some problematic sorts too, such as add-on security apps.


Please download and run EtreCheck, and share the report to the clipboard. Then open a new reply here, and press the Additional Text button (which looks like a printed page) to get a text input box big enough to paste the hardware and software configuration report here, and paste and post the report here. This tool is intended to allow posting here, but works to avoid including personally-identifiable details.


I’d also suggest an update to Ventura.

Aug 15, 2023 9:52 AM in response to 111KG

Ah, a cleaner app, multiple add-on anti-virus apps, an add-on VPN, a torrent app, and disabled security.


I’d nuke this Mac from orbit; erase and reinstall and migrate just files and documents and not apps.


When you erase and start over, avoid loading cleaner apps, add-on anti-malware apps, avoid VPNs outside of connecting into affiliated internal networks and geolocation shifting and testing, and leave Apple security enabled. And torrents are one of the better sources of Mac malware as the cracks increasingly also target the privacy and security of the users of the cracked apps, and of transient and massive system load.


Yes, you could probably clean this up manually, but that’s more work, and the add-on anti-malware apps and cleaner apps too often don’t remove easily.


I’m mildly surprised this Mac is performing well, even with one of the anti-malware apps badly confused.

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