Writing hi res music files DVD

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I have a CD player (Denon 1700ne) that can read hi res audio files written to a DVD. I will use my iMac to do this. However, I am confused by this instruction in the Denon user manual: "When writing music files on a DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW or CD-R/-RW disc, set the writing software's format to ISO9660. The files may not play properly if they are recorded in other formats.

For details, refer to the instructions of your writing software". Can someone please help. Thank You!


iMac 21.5″, macOS 12.6

Posted on Aug 17, 2023 8:42 AM

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Posted on Aug 19, 2023 10:17 AM

You basically don't need to worry about this. ISO9660 is the spec for optical media; all CD/DVD authoring apps support it. And, technically, while UDF is the spec for DVDs, UDF is just an offshoot of ISO9660. What I think Denon was actually trying to say is that if you use /R or /RW media you must burn & close a single session, not create a multisession disk. Writing & closing a single session is the default when you burn a CD or DVD; you would normally have to enable a multisession write in order to not close the disk.


The bigger question is ... are you expecting to create SACD disks (audio 5.1) or just write audio files (MP3, AIFF, FLAC, etc) to DVD media? Your Denon player can handle both, but they are different and I do not know of any consumer-level apps that can produce SACDs.


And a further question is how are you going to obtain/produce your hi res audio files in the first place? Toast, for example, supports hi res audio but if the source audio isn't already hi res to begin with, no conversion to hi res is going to improve the audio and may in fact degrade it.



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Aug 19, 2023 10:17 AM in response to bzawa

You basically don't need to worry about this. ISO9660 is the spec for optical media; all CD/DVD authoring apps support it. And, technically, while UDF is the spec for DVDs, UDF is just an offshoot of ISO9660. What I think Denon was actually trying to say is that if you use /R or /RW media you must burn & close a single session, not create a multisession disk. Writing & closing a single session is the default when you burn a CD or DVD; you would normally have to enable a multisession write in order to not close the disk.


The bigger question is ... are you expecting to create SACD disks (audio 5.1) or just write audio files (MP3, AIFF, FLAC, etc) to DVD media? Your Denon player can handle both, but they are different and I do not know of any consumer-level apps that can produce SACDs.


And a further question is how are you going to obtain/produce your hi res audio files in the first place? Toast, for example, supports hi res audio but if the source audio isn't already hi res to begin with, no conversion to hi res is going to improve the audio and may in fact degrade it.



Aug 18, 2023 3:21 PM in response to bzawa

I don't know what the default format is for DVD data. I think it creates a hybrid disc. The command line utility hdiutil can be used to create an iso9660 image which could then be burned.

You can also burn an image to iso9660 with drutil.


I have used a third-party burning app called Burn. I see it is still in the App Store and claims it can write ISO9660.

I have not used it since the last time I burned a disc which might be measured in decades.

Aug 17, 2023 12:36 PM in response to bzawa

I don't ever remember being able to select formats for CDs/DVDs. To burn a music CD/DVD use the Music or iTunes app depending on what you have. Put the songs you want into a playlist and burn that playlist to CD.


This is want the Finder's Get Info says about an audio CD that was burned with iTunes:



And this is what Disk Utility shows:



If you use the Finder to burn the disc it probably won't be in the right format for an audio disc, but a data disk.


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