MacBook Pro Display too yellow compared to Studio Display

Hi!


I just received my brand new M2 MacBook Pro 16-Inch and my Studio Display.


Why is the display of the MacBook Pro yellow compared to the Studio Display?


The displays are using their default settings:


MacBook Pro: Apple XDR Display (P3-1600 nits)

Studio Display: Apple Display (P3-600 nits)


I turned True Tone off.


It is really important to me that both look the same please.


Thank you!


Christian.

MacBook Pro 16″

Posted on Aug 20, 2023 12:22 PM

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Posted on Aug 23, 2023 7:39 AM

No matter what I do, the colours don't match at all between my Apple Studio Display and my MacBook Pro.

And you will, literally, never get there trying to do this by eye.

I tried the Reference Modes. Not only are they too dark, they don't look AT ALL the same on the Studio Display and the MacBook Pro.

I also tried the "Fine-Tune Calibration" mode; I was expecting being able to calibrate my monitors like before with the little sliders and everything (Display Calibrator Assistant), but all I'm getting are input boxes...

The built-in Calibration function, as I've already stated, is a complete waste of time. It can only guess what your monitor looks like. When you start the function, it clears the LUT and displays what it can only assume is a perfect 6500K, 2.2 gamma display with a predetermined luminance value.


That might be a fairly accurate guess if the monitor is less than a month or two old. After that, forget it.

Again, no matter what I do, both displays look very different. I'm not expecting them to be 100% identical, but I'm expecting my brand new 7000$ set-up to be a little more plug and play than that.

My EIZO CG279X monitor alone cost $2,300, and I still know it needs to be calibrated and profiled on a regular, scheduled basis.


All monitors drift. There are no exceptions. Doesn't matter how much you paid for it. In an almost 100% manner, LCD and LED monitors tend to drift pink as they age. When you eyeball it back to what looks neutral to you, the OS sees you're adding green. It has no idea why, even though you know it's to counteract the pink cast. The OS only knows you seem to like a greenish gray balance, and that's what you printed grays will look like.

I've been spending countless hours trying to figure things out with no success. As I said, I see the differences mainly when I'm on Safari, TextEdit, or when I'm on the Finder with windows open; the big white windows show the warmth and brightness differences the most. However, when I open my photos in Photoshop, they seem almost identical on both screens. 🤷‍♂️

And that's just one problem with a non-color managed monitor. Some apps don't work well with ColorSync. Others, not at all. On any monitor that has not been properly calibrated and profiled, there's no telling what each app will display.

I'm at a loss. I can't spend more money buying a monitor calibrator. I just want both displays to be closer in appearance than THAT:

Sooooo, you've spent 7 grand on your Mac setups, but you won't spend less than $300 to properly color manage the displays? If you ever expect them to match, you need a monitor profiling system. If you ever expect to get professional color results, there's no way around it.


The Calibrate function can only guess at what you're doing. It has no clue - at all - what the monitor's gamut, color range, gray balance, or anything else actually looks like. In other words, it's pointless to even use it.


A monitor profiling system knows exactly what the panel response is. That's what the hardware is for.

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Sep 3, 2023 12:03 PM in response to Krissserz

That's a fairly old model, and I don't think it could handle the response of the Studio Display's panel.


Looking around, I can find some of their stuff in Canada, though everything is priced higher. Here's the item you initially tried to order, but from a Canadian vendor.


https://www.nhsmediastore.com/EODIS3.aspx


Same item on the Canadian Amazon site.


https://www.amazon.ca/Calibrite-ColorChecker-Display-Pro-CCDIS3/dp/B0973JMM4S/ref=sr_1_2?crid=JCSPWCQF6E79&keywords=calibrite%2Bcolorchecker%2Bdisplay%2Bpro&qid=1693767622&sprefix=calibrite%2Bdisplay%2Caps%2C208&sr=8-2&th=1


I found a few of the new line, but they're even more.

Sep 5, 2023 4:50 PM in response to Kurt Lang

I got my Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro in hand and will proceed to the calibration of my Studio Display and my MacBook Pro tomorrow.


Before doing so, I have another set of questions:


As mentioned before, I take photos of my calligraphy, but I don't print my photos; they are intended to be viewed on the Internet (Flickr, Instagram, etc.).


Also, I do After Effects work and also teach After Effects.


The lighting conditions in my office are pretty dark and I have one incandescent light source that give off a warm, yellowish glow of light.


I understand all you said concerning D50.


That being said, since I don't print my photos, do After Effects work and have an incandescent light source in my office, are we still saying I should profile my displays to D50 with a maximum luminance of 160?


Or maybe D55 is to be considered?


My eyes prefer screens that are less bright and have a yellowish temperature rather than a bluish one.


I'm really afraid of not doing the calibration right, and I want to stop wasting time and energy on all of this and start creating again!


Thanks again and again!

Sep 6, 2023 1:16 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Just to add more info about how we see color, and how we rate it.


I previously stated the sun is 6500K. That was from very old notes I keep. That has since been updated by scientists. The sun's direct measurement is 5900K. So, there we are for the sake of accuracy on that subject.


Now regarding my other statements. Art is indeed wrong, and this is not only my opinion. No, we do not normally view the world in 6500K color. Read the following. In both links, it confirms what I've already stated. 5200K is normal daytime color. 6500K only comes in when the sun is filtered by an overcast sky. Why so blue that way? For the same reason lakes and the oceans look blue. Clouds are made up of water and filter out red and green more than blue.


https://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/pages/what-is-natural-lighting


https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/kelvin-scale-breakdown-color-temperature

Sep 8, 2023 6:02 AM in response to Kurt Lang

The default preset (Reference Mode) of the Studio Display has a luminance of 600, which is way too bright:



However, it is possible to manually change the brightness of the screen.


When I change the brightness to another number, it is impossible to change the brightness:



That being said, when I put it to 80 – what is that, anyway... Nits? Lumens? Candelas? – the display gets so dark, I can hardly see anything. I guess that's normal?



Thank you!

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