Can we have individual volume controls for each app please?

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I don't know why this isn't a thing.

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Posted on Aug 31, 2023 5:30 PM

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Aug 31, 2023 7:37 PM in response to FernandoE99

FernandoE99 wrote:

For a OS that tries to simplify its users lives, it's making it more complicated by not having it.

FWIW, having settings for separate apps is more complex than having just a global setting. I actually have two apps that have volume settings for separate apps and I never use the settings. Just to add, I also have TVs and none have separate volume controls for each channel.

Jul 10, 2024 3:10 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

Why do they need access to the code in the app to control its volume? The app sends the audio feedback to the OS and it gets outputted through the speakers.


If they have the possibility to "ask app not to track" they got the possibility to control each individual volume input/output. It doesn't make sense in a phone tho, too complicated, only in a computer + the only apps that really output volume anywhere you are in are in iOS are music apps or any app with background video playback.

Jul 10, 2024 4:26 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

So just to remind you we are talking about MacOS not iOS.

Volume controls should also only be shown for open apps.


You do not have to store any information about volume controls anywhere other than in memory. If app is open, store volume % for the app in memory and regulate output of the speakers. Even if it was stored in disk, its a json with the app name and the volume percentage...


You are telling me, its impossible for Apple to code a middleware between the OS and the App that inputs the volume from an app that is open and displays a volume control...


You are telling me, 3rd party software can do it but not Apple? Yeah... no.

Windows can, Linux can, there is no reason for Apple to not be able to do it.

Sep 7, 2024 7:28 PM in response to Mac Jim ID

Hmm...

It is a terrible idea to and poor design to require a user to go to an OS control panel to change the volume for that app.

Agreed. But, I haven't seen anyone here saying that a user should be required to go to an OS control panel to change the volume for that app. My understanding of this thread is that those who agree are saying that the option should be available (if not from the app itself, possibly from at the OS level). From what I can tell, it is a fair ask. Feel free to correct me if I have misunderstood.

If you are confused now, you would really be confused if each app controlled their volume, then the OS also controlled the volume of each app, and you also had a global volume setting to control the volume of all apps.

What is your basis for this claim that it would be confusing, or, what exactly would you find confusing about that experience?

Sep 7, 2024 10:03 PM in response to Mac Jim ID

Ah, I see. Thank you - I think I can envision the experience that you have in mind. I also think that your concern - users being confused - is quite valid and very customer focused.


What I'm gathering is that you are describing a specific implementation of the feature, "have individual volume controls for each app", based on how you think it might work. Also, in your opinion, that implementation would be confusing for users (I see your point here as well). Alas, that is only one of the ways in which this feature could be implemented. There may be many others, that we aren't considering at this time, that you or the majority of other users would not find confusing.


We should be careful to not conflate the feature and an implementation of the feature. An implementation of an idea being problematic does not automatically mean that the idea itself was problematic. It may simply mean we have more work to do in order to find an implementation that meets all the constraints under consideration.


That is where you would expect to change the volume of an app.


I like this note as well. Still, there was also a time when users expected phones to have a physical keypad. A certain company blew that idea out of the water and changed the world in the process. Sometimes the right thing to do is exactly what the user expects. And still sometimes, you have to innovate and break the status quo. In all cases, I think each path should be carefully explored with adequate user research (as much as time and finances will allow) before a judgement is made as to what is feasible.

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