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Can we have individual volume controls for each app please?

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I don't know why this isn't a thing.

MacBook Pro 14″

Posted on Aug 31, 2023 5:30 PM

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Posted on Aug 31, 2023 6:05 PM

The thing is, it should be a basic feature. Why should I go and find the settings of the app I am using if I could just click the volume icon at the top of my screen and lower the volume of whatever i want. For a OS that tries to simplify its users lives, it's making it more complicated by not having it.

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Aug 31, 2023 5:46 PM in response to FernandoE99

Feedback would be the way to go here. App developers also have the ability to include volume settings on their apps that could be different than your system volume. You can send feedback to the app developer for a feature enhancement to their app that would allow you to set the volume there if it is an App other than the installed Apple apps on Ventura.

Jul 2, 2024 1:21 PM in response to FernandoE99

Any app is capable of managing volume controls themselves and can provide the setting to control the volume level for their app. Some apps do that, but most just inherit the system settings for volume. In addition to providing feedback to Apple, you can also inquire with the developer of an app requesting the feature. It is not difficult for them to implement and they can easily update their app with that feature.


Apple does this with their Music app. After you set the volume level in the app, it will remain that way even if you close the app or restart your phone.

Jul 10, 2024 2:20 PM in response to FernandoE99

iOS sets a global volume level for 3rd party apps; that is, all apps by default have the same volume. This is different from ringer and alert volume settings, and also different from Siri’s volume and phone call volume. These are all independent.


But the reason Apple can’t provide volume settings within a 3rd party app is they don’t have access to the code in the app. The app developer can control the volume of the app when it is running if they choose to.

Jul 25, 2024 11:04 AM in response to FernandoE99

There exist third party applications that implement this. As has been said multiple times here, we have no power to change how the OS works, but developers have created apps that do what you are requiring. Maybe Apple decides to do this, maybe not, but in the meantime if this feature is important, you can get it - and for free...


"BackgroundMusic" is free and open source.

RogueAmoeba (a long time mac developer company specialized in audio) has "SoundSource", a paid application.


I am sure there are options.

Aug 24, 2024 2:24 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Lawrence Finch wrote:

There are over a million apps in the app store. I have 300 on my phone. Apple would need to have a table of a million different volume settings in order to have a separate volume setting for each app.

I'm a little confused by this. Maybe I am misunderstandng you, but Apple would not need to create a table of volume settings for every app. The operating system is aware of each app that is currently running on the platform and can independently control the volume for each one.


There was also a comment about Apple not having access to the code for 3rd party applications. By definition, the operating system has access to everything.

Sep 7, 2024 8:12 PM in response to damienestewart

damienestewart wrote:
What is your basis for this claim that it would be confusing, or, what exactly would you find confusing about that experience?

Simple. Currently, System volume is controlled in the menu bar. Each apps has the ability to control their own volume relative to the System volume. That is currently how it works. For example if our System Volume is 50%, and the app has a volume setting that is at 100%, then the app is playing at 50% volume because it is relative to the System Volume setting.


So now consider that you have a System Volume at 100% and a control panel for the app at 75% and also the app has a volume level at 50%, what volume is the app going to play? What if I want to change the app to play at 100%, do I need to change the volume level in the app and then go to the control panel and change the volume level there too? Confused yet? How many places do you really need to change the volume?


Keep it simple has always worked well for Apple. You have a System Volume and each app can choose to implement their own volume if they wish. That is where you would expect to change the volume of an app.

Sep 7, 2024 10:03 PM in response to Mac Jim ID

Ah, I see. Thank you - I think I can envision the experience that you have in mind. I also think that your concern - users being confused - is quite valid and very customer focused.


What I'm gathering is that you are describing a specific implementation of the feature, "have individual volume controls for each app", based on how you think it might work. Also, in your opinion, that implementation would be confusing for users (I see your point here as well). Alas, that is only one of the ways in which this feature could be implemented. There may be many others, that we aren't considering at this time, that you or the majority of other users would not find confusing.


We should be careful to not conflate the feature and an implementation of the feature. An implementation of an idea being problematic does not automatically mean that the idea itself was problematic. It may simply mean we have more work to do in order to find an implementation that meets all the constraints under consideration.


That is where you would expect to change the volume of an app.


I like this note as well. Still, there was also a time when users expected phones to have a physical keypad. A certain company blew that idea out of the water and changed the world in the process. Sometimes the right thing to do is exactly what the user expects. And still sometimes, you have to innovate and break the status quo. In all cases, I think each path should be carefully explored with adequate user research (as much as time and finances will allow) before a judgement is made as to what is feasible.

Jul 10, 2024 2:11 PM in response to FernandoE99

Thats the whole point.
No reason it shouldn't be a default feature of any OS.
Volume mixers are something easy to implement.

My computer is not an iPhone that only needs 1 master volume control.

You keep arguing to us like we can do anything about it. The only people who can change it is Apple. Complain to them. They aren't here.

All anybody here can do is offer workarounds. None of them are expected to solve your problem as they cannot.

Can we have individual volume controls for each app please?

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