13.5.2 causing memory issues

"out of application memory" shows after installing the emergency 13.5.2 version .... no change otherwise and never had issue with 13.5.1

Posted on Sep 11, 2023 2:01 AM

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Posted on Sep 11, 2023 2:12 AM

Interesting as I have recently updated 3 different Apple Computers from 13.5.1 to 13.5.2 and no Memory issues


Use the Activity Monitor application and make sure to use View >> View All Processes 


What process or processes are using the Most CPU  and Memory.


Often times - the issue maybe not a single Process  alone but a combination of Processes


Also, when the computer is using so much Memory - it can be a indicator of a Lack Of Empty Spaces on the Drive.


In which case, the CPU and Memory usage would become Much More because it is searching for Empty Space to save all the Changes the user is performing.


Also, depending on the number of  Open Tabs in your Browser, they can also affect Memory Usage.

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Sep 11, 2023 2:12 AM in response to Bengt Schultz

Interesting as I have recently updated 3 different Apple Computers from 13.5.1 to 13.5.2 and no Memory issues


Use the Activity Monitor application and make sure to use View >> View All Processes 


What process or processes are using the Most CPU  and Memory.


Often times - the issue maybe not a single Process  alone but a combination of Processes


Also, when the computer is using so much Memory - it can be a indicator of a Lack Of Empty Spaces on the Drive.


In which case, the CPU and Memory usage would become Much More because it is searching for Empty Space to save all the Changes the user is performing.


Also, depending on the number of  Open Tabs in your Browser, they can also affect Memory Usage.

Sep 11, 2023 2:45 AM in response to Bengt Schultz



Bengt Schultz wrote:

thanks, but I've done all that. Adobe Lightroom Cloud version is using 50gb [don't know what it was on 13.5.1]

Sorry but the original question " 13.5.2 causing memory issues "


" have some 250gb free [using 1.72tb] on a 2tb internal disk on Mac mini w M1 "


Now it appears your question is related to Empty Space on the drive ?


It is generally a good computer practice to alway keep at least 15% to 20% of the Total Drive Capacity’s as Empty Space.


Allowing the computer to drop below these guidelines may eventually, cause unintended consequences.


There is Purgeable Space and there is Empty Space.


Purgeable Space which is Controlled by the Operating System. When the Operating Systems decides the computer needs additional Empty Space, it will move a portion of the Purgeable to Empty space


AFAIK - there is no User Actions to hasten this transition from Purgeable to Empty Space


It can day or longer before this will occur  


The links below will assist in identifying what is taking up space on the Internal Drive and provide possible ways to remove data that is under the direct control of the User ( Home Folder ) . 


Using Adobe Applications - check with Adobe on where their Applications store their cache files


Adobe applications are well know to create huge Caches files that occupy xx GBs of space on the drive


If you delete them, the computer will regain a lot of empty space


Be aware, the cache files will be recreated by the Application as there are needed.


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac


What is “Other” storage on a Mac, and how can I clean it out?


Free up storage space on your Mac


OmniDiskSweeper Safe to use


GrandPerspective 


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac.  


Often caused if the Time Machine Drive has not been attached  to the computer and TM Backup is set to run on a Schedule. 


TM Backup will make Snap Shot on the Internal Drive awaiting the TM Backup Drive to be attached. 


Only then will the Snaps Shots be transferred to the External Drive and deleted the Internal Drive.


See used and available storage space on your Mac


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch


Notation - If the user is using a cloning software like Carbon Copy Cloner - and https://bombich.com/kb/ccc6/automated-maintenance-ccc-safetynet-folder suggest tweaking the Safety Net Feature in this software. It may be making additional Snap Shots that are not being Cloned to the Eternal Drive. If this should be the case, these Snap Shot could be using additional space on the drive 


The final word from Apple on Managing the " Other/ System Data “ Category


Other / System Data: Contains files that don’t fall into the categories listed here. This category primarily includes files and data used by the system, such as log files, caches, VM files, and other runtime system resources. Also included are temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins. You can't manage the contents of this category. The contents are managed by macOS, and the category varies in size depending on the current state of your Mac.



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