How to purchase an iPhone 15 with SIM slot

VivianMikhail wrote:

How to purchase an iPhone 15 with SIM slot

Have you considered reading the five pages of discussion on the subject in this thread? If not, that would be a good first step.

Apple cannot do this in other countries because of lack of eSIM adoption and/or government regulations, it will be 10+ years before these other countries will allow Apple to sell eSIM only devices.

We all know/understand some of the PROs of using an eSIM phone:

• Convivence
• Simplicity
• Multiple devices able to accept a call
• SIM card security if the phone is lost/stolen

Here are some of the CONs:

• Not all countries use eSIMs
• eSIM card rates are more expensive than SIM card rates

And the WORST

• The phone can always be tracked because you cannot take the SIM out of the phone

IdrisSeabright wrote:

zedmurark231 wrote:

The phone can always be tracked because you cannot take the SIM out of the phone

Turn the phone off. Or put it in a Faraday bag.

Even if you could take the SIM out of the phone, you wouldn't be able to take the IMEI – the phone's unique ID – out of the phone.

If the FBI is interested in you, and they have a search warrant that compels carriers to cooperate, do you believe they're going to track you ONLY by the SIM card? Or are they going to be looking for any match EITHER with the SIM (regardless of which phone it is in) OR with the IMEI (regardless of which SIM is in the phone)?

Servant of Cats wrote:

IdrisSeabright wrote:

zedmurark231 wrote:

The phone can always be tracked because you cannot take the SIM out of the phone

Turn the phone off. Or put it in a Faraday bag.

Even if you could take the SIM out of the phone, you wouldn't be able to take the IMEI – the phone's unique ID – out of the phone.

If the FBI is interested in you, and they have a search warrant that compels carriers to cooperate, do you believe they're going to track you ONLY by the SIM card? Or are they going to be looking for any match EITHER with the SIM (regardless of which phone it is in) OR with the IMEI (regardless of which SIM is in the phone)?

They can't track you by a phone that's turned off or otherwise not connected to any network.

I was thinking, If you buy a sealed iphone that has never been opened or activated, it doesn’t matter from where, if the iphone is still in production it should for sure be covered under warranty Plus you can add applecare to a new device. Ive added applecare to new activations of iphone 11pro maxs and the phone is what 5 years old…. Once apple stops providing ios updates to a generation of iPhones I believe they stop servicing them through applecare, but until then you can stay on applecare.

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/add-applecare-to-iphone-after-purchase/

Bandit_1200 wrote:

I was thinking, If you buy a sealed iphone that has never been opened or activated, it doesn’t matter from where, if the iphone is still in production it should for sure be covered under warranty Plus you can add applecare to a new device. Ive added applecare to new activations of iphone 11pro maxs and the phone is what 5 years old…. Once apple stops providing ios updates to a generation of iPhones I believe they stop servicing them through applecare, but until then you can stay on applecare.

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/add-applecare-to-iphone-after-purchase/

It DOES matter from where the phone was purchased. iPhone is made regionally and iPhone Warranty is limited to the country of purchase. You cannot buy an iPhone for example in Canada and then add AppleCare+ to it in the US. You'd have to buy the AppleCare+ plan in Canada, but then the AppleCare+ plan would ONLY apply to Canada, so you'd have to travel back to Canada for warranty or AppleCare+ support. Whether it is still factory sealed or ever activated makes absolutely NO difference.

If you buy a sealed iphone that has never been opened or activated, it doesn’t matter from where, if the iphone is still in production it should for sure be covered under warranty

Wrong.

Call an authorized service shop where you live in the U.S., or anywhere in the U.S. for that matter and explain to them that you purchased a new phone in London, but it needs service. Ask whether the warranty will be good in the U.S.

I dont get it, even with esim only iphone, you can find shops or sites on the internet that will sell data only plans and or data and talk text options like onesimcard (yes they work) pricey but they work. i do believe and or think that carriers outside the US should sell at least data only esims. Wont lie 150 gigs from vodafone for £30 is a steal or great deal. Besides travelers arent going to stay in a country for long where they need talk and text.

As another user has mention, “How can I get the shipping address of UPS store in Canada? Should I contact the UPS store in Canada? What are the procedures? Thanks.” We appreciate your knowledge in advance

They can ask Apple to track you by FaceID or TouchID regardless which iPhone you use...also they can ask google for your Gmail audit trail if you are not using iOS. Also from your voice from Google or Amazon/Alexa if you are using it...I think Samsung uses eye retina scan as well. There are enough trails from different vendors to track you...

vmt2025 wrote:

They can ask Apple to track you by FaceID or TouchID regardless which iPhone you use.

FaceID and TouchID are not tracking technologies. They only lock or unlock your phone and apps that support it.

Also from your voice from Google or Amazon/Alexa if you are using it.

While Google and Amazon may have a wealth of information on you, they can't track you by your voice. Worry about the real things.

vmt2025 wrote:

They can ask Apple to track you by FaceID or TouchID regardless which iPhone you use...also they can ask google for your Gmail audit trail if you are not using iOS. Also from your voice from Google or Amazon/Alexa if you are using it...I think Samsung uses eye retina scan as well. There are enough trails from different vendors to track you...

Who is “they”? And no, “they” - whoever they are - can’t ask Apple to track you in any way, shape or form, because Apple has no idea where you are. And certainly not by the biometric identification whose only purpose is to unlock the screen, and which exists only on the phone, and nowhere else in the world. And no, Google and Amazon cannot track you by voice either.

Your phone, regardless of manufacturer, is not something to be concerned about. Here are the real tracking risks:

• Your carrier knows the location of your phone all the time, even if you turn off location services, because it can triangulate from the towers that receive your phone’s periodic “I’m here” ping. They are required by law to do this to support E911. They upload this information to databases where your location and whereabouts are known to law enforcement and any business that cares to know where you are.
• License plate scanners are ubiquitous, in police vehicles and repo trucks. And also along limited access highways, toll roads, bridges and tunnels. And every time your plate is scanned it goes into a location database.
• Electronic toll tags are obviously used every time you use a toll facility, but transponders are located everywhere along highways for traffic control. Have you see signs that display how long it will take to get to an upcoming milepost? Where do you think they get that information?
• Do you use public Wi-Fi, your cable provider’s hotspots or the “free” convenient Wi-Fi networks in malls and stores? Did you think that your location wasn’t tracked by those?
• See those cameras in stores, malls and other public places? Have you heard about facial recognition?
• Did you ever post your picture in Shutterfly?
• Do you have a Transit Pass account?
• Do you use an urban bicycle rental like New York’s CitiBike? Have you noticed that your usage history shows the location and time you picked up the bike and likewise when you dropped it off?
• Do you use credit cards in stores? Did you know that the location where you use a card is recorded in a worldwide central database, ostensibly to detect card fraud through what’s called a “velocity check” (AKA as the “superman test”)?
• Have you heard of iBeacon? It’s a feature that tracks and reports the location of any device that has Bluetooth enabled on a device.
• What about Find My iPhone, which always knows where your phone is? And its feature added in iOS 12 that uses the Bluetooth signals from other phones to anonymously crowdsource the location of a missing phone, even when the phone is powered off?

Apple is about the only business in the world that does NOT track you.

this is wrong. worked on the genius bar in the UK. Had no issues dealing with applecare+ iphones from the US. It was actually advantageous as they didn't end up having to pay the excess fee. Every time I replaced/repaired a US iPhone, when completing the transaction, the cost always came to £0. We just assumed it was because AppleCare was bought from the US and the system didn't do conversions to other currencies

wemice28 wrote:

So shipping address can be for Canada and there won't be any issue with a US billing address?

Also, how does one ship to a new address after it arrives at the UPS store?

No. You can’t do that. The shipping address and billing address for the card must be in the same country where the device is being sold if you’re ordering online.

As far as having it re-shipped out of the country, that would be a violation of Apple’s terms. Apple will not ship to known forwarding addresses.

i live in the UK. i have e-sim in my iPhone for more than a year. my e-sim failed whilst i on holiday in France. no network coverage at all. O2 is part of TELEFONICA my network provider. they are unable to repair or replace e-sim, whilst i am abroad. they also unable to reactivate the original physical sim with my mobile number. i am unable to use banking apps since i am unable to enter security codes they sent via SMS. my ccard was blocked for several days because of this. i have spend five days on the land line phone in the place i am staying trying to sort out. i spend 3 hours in Nice Apple store. i am still unable to use Volt to deliver food to my disabled mother.

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