Why isn’t the 80% charging limit coming to older iPhones?
I can’t see it on my 13 Pro and I’m on iOS 17.
iPhone 13 Pro, iOS 17
I can’t see it on my 13 Pro and I’m on iOS 17.
iPhone 13 Pro, iOS 17
My iPhone 13 has had almost 500 cycles and the battery health is at 93%. This was a trade up from an iPhone 6S. Obviously things have moved on a lot with power consumption much lower and with the phone on low power mode, even after 2 years I am still getting more than 24 hours out of one charge.
You have the ability through shortcuts to keep an iPhone always on low power mode even when it charges past 80%. The great feature that would significantly extend battery life is of course only charging to 80%. Tesla now recommend 80% down from 90% for its NMC/NCA higher performance batteries.
Battery University points out that 3.92 volts is the optimum charge for a lithium ion battery which removes all voltage related stress. This is around 65% SOC. This is where I keep my Tesla for day to day use.
Back on topic - Apple should give us the option to manage how long we want our device batteries to last. We will get many many more battery cycles to what is considered end of life for the cell if we can stop charging at 80%.
Apple, please bring this feature to all iPhones which support the latest iOS.
Thank you again. This is interesting.
I checked with my EV builder friends and they made some observation. Packs can be imbalanced for years (to a point). No damage (they say).
In the old days rudimentary BMS stopped over voltage and under voltage. But for a long time we have had BMS that balance cells from the bottom of the charge curve.
My only real example of this (as I don’t have an analysis tool for my Tesla) is I have an old Vectrix maxi scooter which runs on 2011 Nissan Leaf salvaged cells to make up a pack.
The BMS balances from the conmencement of charging. As the cells charge, current bypasses higher voltage cells until all cells are the same and then they charge at the same current in unison.
There is quite a lot of confusion on this topic and it would be good to share an article if you can find one.
I have found academic papers which state that batteries cycled below 50% have a much longer life.
Regardless of those papers I am skeptical of the claim that Tesla’s recommended daily charge setting (which as you know is 50-80% SOC), unless travelling, will destroy their battery pack.
I obviously have a keen interest in seeing the evidence for this.
I found that forum.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/charge-to-90-or-80-daily.194703/
I think you are confusing indicated range with battery health.
The two things can be quite separate.
An Interesting exchange in that forum and I will look at it in detail.
thank you for the explanation. Unfortunately, I can only say what I've been told, I'm not too familiar with the details. But it would be great if you could take a closer look and then give me feedback on what is the best for the battery. I think you're a bit more knowledgeable about this.
That’s absolutely wrong. The battery cuts off all charging after it reaches 100%? It can also cut it off when optimised charging is enabled? I’m pretty sure optimised charging came with a software update and not a hardware thing. So if they can cut it off, why can’t they do it at 80%
Because the hardware isn’t capable of it. Not all features become available to older hardware when a new device comes out.
I know that, I’m sorry if my reply sounded harsh, I’m just looking for helpful answers
I will definitely do that. We want these batteries to last and last (they do).
How do I claim for my refund
I need to know
Because Apple intends to let old phones battery age quickly so users can buy newer phones. They are a business, they does what makes them more money.
Why isn’t the 80% charging limit coming to older iPhones?