External SSD keeps disconnecting after upgrading to Sonoma

In order to replicate the issue just connect any external SSD wait for a while and it will be disconnected with message "Disk Not Ejected Properly". SSD is connected to M1 MacBook Pro. It's neither a cable issue because I tried multiple cables, nor an SSD issue as everything worked just fine before upgrade.

Posted on Oct 4, 2023 12:23 PM

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Posted on Oct 26, 2023 4:15 AM

Here is the issue that I've raised https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/feedback/13263285

I believe that if we raise couple more similar issues Apple will notice it, because the one that was reported by me - says : Recent Similar Reports:None

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Jan 6, 2024 10:20 AM in response to DimitryD

I had been using a Mac Mini w Intel processor sunning Sonoma and 5 HD's (3- 3.5" and 1-2.5" portable , all SeaGate, AND 1 2TB SanDisk SSD. One HD was periodically unmounting. Ran TechTools and confirmed it was dying, so discarded it. All the rest were operating fine including an 8TB Time Machine Backup drive.


I then upgraded to a MacBook M3 Pro Max. Migration was a pain. It would not connect to my MacMini, so, I chose to migrate from the Time Machine backup. This when smoothly.


Then I connected my other drives. Soon, there were reported problems with ALL drive! Time Machine could not backup to the Time Machine HD. It reported that it didn't have permission. The other drives continuously got the Improper removal message. The SSD gave a message that it could not be repaired (never asked it to be repaired), that I could copy files from the SSD, but could not alter them


All drives were formatted in the MacOS Extended Journaled format. Connecting the 3.5" drives would take 10-20 minutes topper in the finder. Connecting the 2.5' Portable HD connected quickly, but them started reporting improper removals. The SSD mounted quickly, but with the aforementioned error message.


Spent two sessions with online Apple Support, reinstalled the MacOS Sonoma, removed all potential interfering software (Sophos Antivirus, PIA VPN, TechTools, etc), then went to the Genius Bar.

They confirmed everything I've reported, with no solution.


In frustration, I purchased a LeCie HD in the Apple Store, reformatted it to APFS, and it mounted immediately. So, I went home, set the LaCie drive as my new Time Machine drive, backed up my MacBook.


I've now spend a few days trying to solve the remaining problems. The original TM backup file could not be copied from the original drive to the new TM drive. Eventually I had to give up and reformat the old TM drive to APFS, losing years backups. BUT, that drive has been performing flawlessly for 3 plus days now. I transferred files from problematic drive to the recently reformatted drives, then reprobated to problematic drive , then repeated the problem with the ned problematic drive. Each time a drive was formatted, it instantly mounted when connected to the MB Pro. BTW, the SanDisk SSD could NOT be formatted to the APFS format, but was reformatted to macOS Extended and is also working just fine.


Fingers crossed...

Jan 20, 2024 11:18 AM in response to DimitryD

I've been experiencing disconnects of my Sabrent Thunderbolt dual NVMe enclosure (Mac mini M2 Pro, Sonoma 14.2.1). As strange as this may sound, my problem seems to be related to wifi. I use a wired network connection and keep wifi turned on (but not connected to an SSID) only to allow my Apple Watch to unlock the computer. So far while wifi is turned off, I have not had a disconnect. However, the act of turning wifi back on causes the drives to disconnect. This is repeatable behavior. Whether it applies to anyone else's situation I'm not sure, but it might be worth checking to see if it is a workaround if you are facing this issue.

May 28, 2024 1:11 PM in response to VictorSerban

Do do do report it!


  • Official Apple Support
    • Easy route: Get Support > Start Now (bottom of page) > pick device > Live Chat. This has proven efficient lately in my experience. 💡Insist on MAC support or (again, my exp) even when Mac specified, you can waste time with a generalist or iOS person who has no knowledge of Mac or Mac O/S.
    • Why bother*? Because if it continues 2-3 times a week you may end up with corrupted data and fried drives (as I did). Also not a bad idea to get it logged early on so there's a record with Apple in case it becomes a major issue requiring hardware intervention.
  • Product Feedback - Apple (no replies there, just for the record).


*Wish I'd reported it so as soon as the problem arose, insead of thinking it was everything but my MBP and losing a screen and 2 disks. Genius Bar was unable to replicate it, so the tech leaned towards the idea that it wasn't a Mac fault. The Mac was finally replaced, but it was a long battle that cost me dearly in time, data loss, stress and hardware.


As others have said, Apple will only take this seriously if they receive numerous reports about it.




Feb 22, 2024 10:42 AM in response to DimitryD

Disk not ejected properly:

This can be caused by a shortcoming of your external Bus Powered drive, and not of your Macintosh computer.


When you Mount any ejectable drive, the Directory from the drive is copied into RAM, and the directory on the drive is marked status = checked out (like a library book that has been borrowed from the lending library). The RAM copy is considered the Master copy, and changes that you make while working are made in the RAM copy of the Directory.


When you Eject/UnMount a drive, the RAM copy of the Directory replaces the copy on the drive, and the status of the directory on the drive is marked status = checked IN and Good.


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Some external drives get all their power from the USB Bus. Bus-powered external drives should gracefully transition into standby and accept reduced USB power supplied when your Mac sleeps.


Some drives do this perfectly. Other drives do not transition gracefully and do not run only on standby power. Instead of stand-by, these drives disconnect. The problem is, the Directory from the drive has been checked out, and the Master copy in RAM has no way to get back to the disconnected drive.


Some Time later, when your Mac wakes up again, the drive reports 'I just woke up and am ready to connect'. Your Mac is confused because the drive will not CONTINUE from where it left off, so the Mac says "drive disconnected". The copy of the Directory on the Drive is Stale/checked out (not the Master copy). You get the messages "drive not ejected properly" the same as if you had pulled the cables out while running. The correct state of the Directory can not be determined instantly, but requires Disk Utility 'Repair Disk' procedure.


Summary: this is likely a deficit of the DRIVE, not the Mac. If any one of:

• the drive had external power -OR-

• the drive transitioned gracefully to standby -OR-

• the Mac did not sleep, THEN...

...this would likely not occur.


Nov 28, 2023 11:31 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Not sure why you're replying to me with all that, but it's really rubbing me the wrong way. I am a video editor for a living and I use SSD drives every single day of my life. I would like to think I have a pretty firm grasp of how to use, initialize, and format them. Everything was working fine for YEARS until this recent update.. it is without a question a macOS software issue.


By the way, control clicking 'Get Info', will tell you in plain english what the drive's format is.

Mar 22, 2024 2:35 PM in response to DimitryD

Same problem with Sonoma 14.3.1 on a new (Nov 2023) MacBook Pro M3 Pro Silicon. Happened infrequently but many times with a 5T external HDD. Tried 3 different cables (USB Micro B to USB A into the USB A female to USB C adapter), happened on all 3 cables. Tried a different 5T HDD, happened with it also. This never happened with either of these same HDD on my old laptop (MacBook Pro mid-2014 with Mojave). Today It has happened a dozen times in one afternoon with a Lexar 128 GB USB flash "thumb" memory stick. I tried 2 different adapters, right and left rear USB-C ports on the laptop, happened multiple times in every configuration. Results suggest to me a bug in Sonoma. When it happens while copying to the Lexar, I get "device disappeared", then a separate alert "not ejected properly".

Jun 18, 2024 2:39 AM in response to DimitryD

I have the same issue with a Samsung T7 1TB drive. I have noticed a pattern. I have three portable usb drives(2 SSD and one Lacie rugged).

All drives except the Samsung T7 work perfectly on all my Macs (+ others where I work).

The T7 works on all macs that have earlier operating systems (not Ventura or Sonoma). On operating systems from Mavericks to Monterey The T7 works fine and in the system report in the Hardware: USB tab, current available is 900mA and current required is 896mA. But on either Ventura or Sonoma, current available is 500mA and current required is 500mA. The other drives (WD passport 1TB and Lacie Rugged 2TB) show current available is 900mA and current required is 896mA across all hardware and operating systems.

The T7 will mount but after a short period will become unresponsive and be difficult to eject. When I first noticed this the drive would eject itself but it no longer does this. It just becomes unresponsive. I have seen it happen on four different machines, two with Ventura and two with Sonoma. I hope Apple will take this issue seriously.

Perhaps this is difficult to follow so I will summarise:

WD passport and Lacie Rugged work on Macbook Pro M2 13.6.7, IMac M1 14.4.1, IMac M1 13.6.6

Samsung T7 does not work on Macbook Pro M2 13.6.7, IMac M1 14.4.1, IMac M1 13.6.6 but works perfectly on a variety of hardware up to Monterey.

When T7 has problems current available is 500mA and current required is 500mA and this only happens with Ventura and Sonoma



Jun 16, 2024 10:31 PM in response to gernophil

in my case with external HDD (USB powered WD passport and also a Thunderbolt RAID with power adaptor) I always had "put hard disk to sleep" off. And they both got suddenly disconnected daily.


Until recently I also had them all formatted as MacOS journaled.


Since I changed them to APSF and set "put hard disk to sleep" ON, I did not note disconnections anymore.


But of course you are all talking about SSD here and supposedly have them APSF formatted already, so that can not be it.

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