Slow Mac after upgrading to Sonoma 14.0 OS

kohanmike wrote:

I have a MacStudio M1 Max, 64GB of RAM, 2TB internal PCIe SSD drive. I did not have a problem with Monterey, when I upgraded to Ventura, I had various problems and hoped they would be fixed in Sonoma, but not only are they not fixed, now my computer takes a very long time to start, my mouse is erratic, when before it started very very fast and had no mouse issue.

It is interesting that you state that the M1 computer cannot run newer macOSs well, other than the macOS it came with, in your case Monterey. Why? Can you elaborate on that?

I've always used Macs so I don't have to do all those Windows-like, time-consuming tasks as an end user. I haven't seen anything from Apple, but maybe I've missed it - what do they say, and when will they fix it, so everyone doesn't have to take six hours to make their new Mac OS work?

Gandalf47 wrote:

I've always used Macs so I don't have to do all those Windows-like, time-consuming tasks as an end user. I haven't seen anything from Apple, but maybe I've missed it - what do they say, and when will they fix it, so everyone doesn't have to take six hours to make their new Mac OS work?

We are not Apple here, only users. If you want to get Apple's attention send a feedback to them using the Feedback Assistant.

MacOS update, by the way, takes just ~20 minutes.

I know. I thought maybe someone here had read something. Sorry. I didn't realize that we just come here to complain to each other. I was hoping to understand why this is happening.Obviously, Apple has heard about it, so I am seeking whatever data is available on the subject in any venue. I'd just like my once fast, reliable computer to be able to be friendly with Sonoma.

Gandalf47 wrote:

I know. I thought maybe someone here had read something. Sorry. I didn't realize that we just come here to complain to each other. I was hoping to understand why this is happening.Obviously, Apple has heard about it, so I am seeking whatever data is available on the subject in any venue. I'd just like my once fast, reliable computer to be able to be friendly with Sonoma.

No, this is not a complain site, but a user-help-user site.

When I first came here, I came here to learn from other people, who went out of their way to help others. They didn't have to , but they do. And, now I try to help too, whenever possible. I am a new macOS user, but with lot of Linux knowledge, hence much easy to learn this UNIX based OS.

The best way to get people to help you is to open your own thread with your problem. It is also better to describe your problem, rather than complaining. Complaining makes people stay away and out of any future arguments.

Also, it is always better to send a feedback to Apple.

Why open a new thread? My problem is indentical to many on this thread, even some with the same hardware configuration. My inquiry was substantialed by similar comments, but no conclusive fixes. I think there is something fundamental to Sonoma which needs attention by Apple. They know about the problem by now. I'd like to know why it's happening and why it isn't fixed yet. I think others here feel similarly.

Thanks for trying to explain.

Gandalf47 wrote:

Why open a new thread? My problem is indentical to many on this thread, even some with the same hardware configuration.

No two people have the same problem. Open your own thread, people will try to help you.

I think there is something fundamental to Sonoma which needs attention by Apple. They know about the problem by now. I'd like to know why it's happening and why it isn't fixed yet. I think others here feel similarly.

You are knocking on the wrong door here. There's no Apple here, only users. This is a user-to-user community.

If you want to have Apple's attention, send in a feedback. Someone will read it.

Of course it did! That's why I haven't done it.

What, you think Apple wants to give new updates so your old Mac works perfectly? They want to make your old one obsolete and make you frustrated so you go spend thousands of dollars to buy a new machine when the old one was working perfectly.

I can't stand it. It's making me want to just get a completely different brand of laptop when I upgrade in a couple of months.

I have exactly same problem on my Mac Mini M2 1TB 32GB bought in Jan 2023. not having a standard Apple KB (I switch between Mini and PC with a switchbox) makes it (impossible?) to get into safe mode, Time Machine recovery so I ordered an Apple Magic KB which should arrive today. I will try some of these suggestions, although it looks like folks are not having success.

It would be cool if Apple had some like windows utility PROCMON

Same issue. M1 Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD. After upgrading from Ventura to Sonoma, login easily takes 3 times as long as with previous versions of the MacOS. Nothing about my configuration changed except the OS, so spending time diagnosing seems a silly waste of time. The problem is the OS. Apple needs to address this. Happy to provide information to the appropriate department. Will file bug on Developer site.

I have the same problem. My Mac Book Air was working fine until upgrade of Sonoma 14.0

Upgraded again to 14.1.1

My Mac Book is more or less impossible to work with. Everything wa working perfect until the upgrade. Then as slow as my slowest PC ever was in the 90's.

This is an Apple Issue! Just get it fixed!!!

Hi All

Thats it for me and Sonoma and my new mac, I have an old 2012 imac running Hi Serria I think?? it has all I need apart from security updates.. Even typing this theres a lag. I have little interest looking under the hood trying to fix things that should work!!!! My password app dosnt work i have years of notes there im terrified of losing , my desk top folders have disappeared to icloud .

IM sitting here trying to work watching the spinning wheel and its not consistent sometimes its opens and other times it just sits there spinning .

So its back to 2012 where my printer works , pages open and hopefully restrict icloud.

oh and apple mail works without trying to download 40,000 emails going back to 2012 , i dumped apple mail for Thunder bird which helped . There you go a tip !!!

Sorry but I have just had it with Apple we shouldnt have to spend hours looking for forums for fixes.

I had the same issue with a very slow iMac since Sononoma first release installed. I bought my iMac in 2019. Taxera was running on it.

A few days after Sonoma installation, it did not start at all. Impossible to make it work with the recovery mode, not the backup on my dsstation. I am stuck and use my old iMac bought in 2011! Very disappointed…

I spoke to Apple a while and the techie acknowledged the problem and said they were working on it They've since done another reissue but the problem continues. No coincidence that Apple is now using its own chip, so have they moved away from supporting the old Macs? Planned obsolescence?

That’s an interesting idea; perhaps the IPU doesn’t stage correct drivers or otherwise has metadata woes; that’s plausible.

I was seeing a ton of CPU time, go to the kernel, though, in additional cloud sync processes. That would potentially explain the ladder, though.