MacBook Pro mid 2012 freezing/crashing randomly

My MacBook Pro, mid 2012 non-retina version, has started with this problem a few days ago, it sometimes won’t boot up, giving the message your computer shut down because of a problem, I may make several attempts then just shut the lid, and when I come back later and lift the lid it might be up and running again! Even then it might get to anything from a few seconds to even an hour of use, then I might notice when I click a link it doesn’t respond, then it might allow me to exit another program but before a few more seconds elapse it will either cut out and try to restart with a white screen, or I get the spinning wheel and the machine is totally unresponsive - I’ve tried changing the hard drive and it made no difference, then I heard it could be the hdd cable, so I ordered one, but since then I have disconnected the cable from the motherboard and used a known good external usb drive, and the same problem is happening- can anyone advise, is my motherboard knackered or is there something I can try? Sorry for the long story! Thanks

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Oct 16, 2023 1:38 AM

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Posted on Oct 17, 2023 9:23 AM

Most likely bad memory or a bad memory slot. A bad memory slot is most likely since the memory slot nearest the Bottom Case tends to develop cracked solder joints over time.....any pressure on the case can tend to cause the system to freeze. Try removing the memory from the slot nearest the Bottom Case to see if that solves your problem. If that memory slot is bad, there is nothing you can do other than leave it empty.


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Oct 17, 2023 9:23 AM in response to Luddite146

Most likely bad memory or a bad memory slot. A bad memory slot is most likely since the memory slot nearest the Bottom Case tends to develop cracked solder joints over time.....any pressure on the case can tend to cause the system to freeze. Try removing the memory from the slot nearest the Bottom Case to see if that solves your problem. If that memory slot is bad, there is nothing you can do other than leave it empty.


Oct 17, 2023 9:00 PM in response to Luddite146

If the solder joint is cracked for the memory slot nearest the Bottom Case, then pressing on the black plastic base of the memory slot will cause the laptop to get graphical glitches on the screen or it will cause the laptop to freeze where the mouse point won't move (sometimes releasing the pressure on the base will have the laptop unfreeze, but not usually). Sometimes you can just press on the center of the Bottom Case to get the laptop to freeze, but pressing on the base of the memory slot (not on the modules themselves) is the most reliable way to reproduce the issue. When pressing the bottom case or base of memory slot, there must be a memory module installed in the slot nearest the Bottom Case.


Keep in mind it is rare for more than one memory module to fail at the same time. In fact it is rare for Apple memory to fail at all, but it does happen from time to time. I have also had the memory slot nearest the keyboard fail, but that is much more rare. Assuming the laptop doesn't freeze or get graphical glitches when pressing the base, then testing with a single memory module should reveal the bad module or slot,


You can use a bootable Memtest86 USB stick to check the memory. If you don't get any failures with the default Memtest86 settings, then try changing the Memtest86 CPU setting to "Sequential" or "Round Robin" since I have found they can sometimes report a failure (usually in the form of the test freezing...which is Ok if it only happens with one specific module or slot). The exception is test #13......the Hammer test which does not always indicate bad RAM.....if it fails the Hammer test, then you need to check to see if it actually indicates bad RAM since I recall reading that one type of Hammer test failure indicates definitely bad RAM while the other type of Hammer test failure just indicates the RAM is vulnerable to a Row Hammer attack.


I am assuming you are using the original Apple memory which shipped from the factory. If you are using third party RAM, then maybe the RAM is having a compatibility issue since Macs are very picky about the RAM used.

Oct 17, 2023 12:04 PM in response to TammyW_03

Thanks for your reply, I will keep the thread updated to assist others with similar symptoms, but it looks like being a motherboard issue, I have been playing with different combinations of memory - I have 2 x 8gb memory sticks (DDR3) and by taking the top one out I was amazed to see it seemed to be ok for a good hour, then just as I thought I might get away with just buying some new memory, off it went again! I tried with the other memory stick in the lower position and again, it seemed ok for a while then was just awful! I tried both sticks individually in the top slot instead, and whichever permutation I tried ended up with the same result, so I put both sticks back in, left it overnight and today have used it quite a lot with no problems, until I asked it to copy my music library from my second hard drive to the "new" one I'm using - it gets so far into it but then restarts or dies every time! I spoke to a technician locally who says it is most likely motherboard replacement which is needed, so that being the case I might as well just buy a replacement secondhand laptop - I don't want a later model because I love this one and how user-friendly it is to change hard drives and upgrade memory etc, so I am going to buy another machine and carry on playing with this one just out of curiosity!

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