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Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

I am reaching out to share an ongoing issue I, along with several other users, have been experiencing with our iMac 24-inch models, and to seek a collective resolution.


Problem Description:

  • Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen, which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device.
  • This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device.


Steps Taken:

  • Connected to an external display: The external display works fine, indicating the issue is with the iMac's internal display.
  • Reinstalled the OS: The problem persisted post reinstallation.
  • Avoided operating the iMac for a week: No change in the situation.


Concerns:

  • The cost of screen replacement is high, and there's no assurance that it will resolve the issue permanently.
  • The quality concern is alarming especially for a brand that positions itself as a premium segment player.
  • The support received thus far has been unsatisfactory, with no definitive solutions provided apart from a costly screen replacement suggestion.





Please do not ask us to visit to service center and replace the screen for 650USD + , problem happens mostly after warranty.


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iMac (M1, 2021)

Posted on Oct 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Posted on May 19, 2024 8:45 PM

According to the Apple support team I contacted, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.


What they didn't say was why this problem is occurring after two years of using the iMac on so many computers.


So, as Apple hasn't yet assumed that it's their fault, what I did, given the lack of concrete answers from Apple, was to take my iMac to a technician and ask him to assess the problem to see if it's a construction problem or just a random fault.


The explanation I was given was as follows:


In terms of circuitry, everything seems to be working properly.


The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen, and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD.


So the only option is to replace the entire LCD (LCD+main boards+screen glass).


Also, according to the technician's explanation, this cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), it has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD (this despite the iMac's power supply being 15.9V), and it heats up a lot!


So, what happens after a while (in this case after about 2 years) is that it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.


The level of brightness makes a fundamental contribution to this problem. Thus, the higher the brightness used, the sooner the problem occurs.


This is easily understood by measuring the difference in temperature at the top of the screen when it is at its lowest brightness level, compared to when it is at its highest. It's quite a big difference!


When it's at its lowest brightness, it's practically room temperature; when it's at its highest, you can almost "fry an egg"!


I think that as soon as Apple recognizes that there is a problem with these computers, the first thing it will do is make a change to the OS that reduces the maximum brightness limit allowed (to less than 500 nits). Time will tell...


Why does this happen?

For at least one of three reasons:

1- a design flaw - so this problem is likely to occur in a large number of devices;

2- a defect in components - the problem is limited to a few cases;

3- use of components below Apple's standards - the problem may be limited, or more widespread.


This was the explanation I was given. I'm not a technician. Only Apple will know the exact reason(s).


If I had to guess, I'd say that I don't believe it's a design fault, because Apple has an obligation to be very careful about that; I also don't think it's a fault with the component(s) because it seems to be happening all over the planet and doesn't seem to be localized; so I think it's due to the use of component(s) below, or at the limit of, Apple's standards which, when put under extreme stress (higher brightness), end up failing.


I think it's already clear to everyone that this is a design or manufacturing defect in this Apple model.


So let's hope that Apple takes on this construction problem and repairs it or at least contributes part of the cost of the (overly expensive) repair of our computers.


If it were a car, surely all our computers would be called into the workshop to replace the component that has broken down or is in the process of breaking down.


As it's a computer... let's hope that Apple will behave in a way that suits its customers, who believe in the above-average Apple standard...


So keep presenting your cases to Apple.

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Oct 21, 2023 1:39 PM in response to stumpy1946

Thanks!. We don't have Apple support here, It's mostly Apple authorized service centers outside US. They decide the service pricing.


Yes, it's not like I can't afford another one or repair, but it annoys me to see that way things are, it worse than cheap companies here. Yes court action is in progress.


Exactly, but it's not worth make that "small percentage" suffer? Accept that there there is some fault in the product, take actions to avoid it, provide some option for customers fix, instead of saying "You brought it, we don't care". There is nothing like "Replacement" once a product is brought, which is unfair sale practice, and yes, Apple policies are not above the law.


With this post ( which I know Apple don't care ), but hope it helps someone to take some action.

Jan 15, 2024 1:44 PM in response to latVm

This is clearly a hardware failure and the only solution is to replace the screen. No one on this forum can fix it for you. I doubt it is something most users have the tools and training to do themselves. It is an expensive repair, but I do not see any other options.


About 40 others seem to have posted with a similar failure. I do not know how common it is; there are many millions of iMacs M1 in use. Where I work, we have thousands of this Mac model in daily use and I have not heard of any failures like this. I do not doubt that your failure is real, but it might not be very common. All electronics have some non-zero failure rate, I believe these parts are mass produced overseas, a small fraction of all electronics like this have defects. I think the way to protect against this type of repair bill is to get Apple Care, but that is hundreds of dollars spread over several years, I buy it anyway for my personal Macs (which include one iMac M1). If I look at all the iPhones and personal Macs I have owned and how often I used AppleCare for a "free" repair, I have paid way more for Apple Care than I would have for the repairs myself. But I still get Apple Care for peace of mind as laptops and iMacs and iPhones continue to increase in cost ...

Feb 7, 2024 9:45 AM in response to latVm

To make the best of a bad situation you could always use a separate monitor with the iMac. It's an annoyance given that there's already a display taking up desk space but at least you wouldn't have to get another computer. I kept several older iMacs going that way. Just make sure that if the display is really starting to go that you set this up before it is fully gone. You set up the second display as mirroring the first one and with iMacs this has to be done while you can still navigate the main display.

Feb 22, 2024 4:40 PM in response to latVm

I bought mine in June 2021 and since it was a new product on the market I decided to pay 150€ to extend the warranty (store's insurance program) to 5 years. This issue happened this month and the store replaced the display with no additional charges.

They didn't specified the problem but it's not software related.

Two ports, Part number ends in PO.

Apr 22, 2024 12:58 PM in response to Ranglee

It´s a hardware issue.


But, because the (1 dollar) component it's causing it is not accessible, the only fix is an all-new (600-800 dollar) LCD.


My advice, at this moment, is to get a second monitor and turn the brightness of the iMac monitor to ZERO to protect it and delay its definitive failure as long as possible.


A 4K (27”-28”) monitor, with 350nits (or cd/m2) minimum, should work fine.


Color calibration will be the biggest problem if you buy a cheap monitor, but I was taught a trick which is to use the iPhone (or iMac monitor) to do it easily, by matching the monitor to the phone (or iMac) display. There are several videos to help with this technique.


May 8, 2024 2:54 PM in response to latVm

I have discovered that if you keep the display at half, the black lines remain at a barely there level and the screen remains cool to the touch. I think it is using the display at full that causes the problem. It is burning too bright and the machine is not equipped to handle it and then the screen burns itself out.

May 13, 2024 5:43 AM in response to latVm

Woke up this morning to find I also have this same issue on my iMac. This is not only distressing, but ****** me off as I cannot afford to replace or repair it. I have only had this machine for two years (like everyone else) and it has shown no other issues until today. Interestingly enough, the lines do not show up if I take a screen shot of the display. This is not Steve Jobs' Apple anymore, this company has turned to trash IMNSHO.

May 24, 2024 12:08 PM in response to latVm

MacBooks with FlexGate have similar problems. In the MacBook, this is caused by the LVDS cable, which is fixed to the PCB of the lcd assembly and not easily replaceable.


However, the LVDS cable in the iMac can be replaced. Has anyone had experience with this or replaced this cable before?https://www.ebay.nl/itm/255809013613?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=1346-175129-2357-0&ssspo=9_Kc3GPRQIS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2ViFqcZVSqK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY).

Jun 11, 2024 9:51 AM in response to latVm

@allrighty


Read My other comment on the first page, I posted a case number, the moderators removed the full number but I think that should be enough to prove your case. I believe any apple supervisor who reads this thread, in their right judgment would agree that the issue is APPLE manufacturing and this is why they were willing to offer it to me to fix it.


So if we all calmly and kindly let them know and get to the top level and make a request, they will make the best choice to protect their own brand for long-term success.



Jun 20, 2024 5:45 PM in response to Alok_Mishra

Dear Alok Mishra,


According to someone, apparently, the problem lies in a cable that also powers the LCD.

This cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD.

After a while (in this case after about 2 years) it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector side, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.

The "ghost" we see is the signal bleeding from one line to the other due to the short circuits caused by the heating and cable degradation.

That was explained to me by someone who is a technician. But because I'm not a technician, the explanation may not be 100% precise. But I think it's quite accurate and clearly points to a hardware fault.


Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

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