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What are the device limits on Mac Studio’s thunderbolt ports?

I have some spec/compatibility questions about the Mac Studio’s thunderbolt 4 ports that I can’t seem to find the answer to. (This refers to the M2 max version.)


  1. How many thunderbolt 4 devices can I plug into the computer if I use a hub (e.g. the OWC or Caldigit hubs which each take one upstream thunderbolt 4 and have 2-3 downstream thunderbolt 4 ports available)? I’ve read that there’s a limit of 6 devices per thunderbolt 4 port, but is that total for the computer or per physical port on the computer (I.e. 6 in each of the studio’s 4 ports)? Can I plug in 2 hubs to 2 different ports on the Studio? Or daisychain them?
  2. How does the device limit interact with USB devices plugged into a thunderbolt 4 port? I have an M2 Mac mini and I’ve tried using 3 different thunderbolt docks (which have multiple thunderbolt as well as USB 3.1 or 3.2 ports) with made by 2 different manufacturers and None of them were able to recognize a usb device plugged into one of the usb-a ports. Do these devices count towards the 6 device thunderbolt limit… or do they count towards some different usb device limit more like the traditional 127 usb device limit?
  3. I’ve read that thunderbolt 4 has a 40 Gb bandwidth that gets split if multiple devices are plugged into a port (e.g. with a daisychain or hub). Is that limit per physical port on the computer or shared across the studio’s 4 physical port?


Thanks so much for any insights!


(And before you ask: the answer is large monitors (with high bandwidth usage), multiple storage arrays and 10G Ethernet…)


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Posted on Oct 21, 2023 5:18 PM

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Posted on Oct 21, 2023 5:29 PM

The FRONT ports on the Apple studio Max processor are USB-C, and specified limited to 10 G bits/sec.

on the ULTRA model, all are ThunderBolt 40 G bits/sec EACH.


The rear thunderbolt ports acan attain up to 40 G Bits/sec per computer port. Display data have highest priority.


You can chain up to six Thunderbolt docks or hubs or other devices on each computer PORT. But you may run out of available bandwidth first.


To support up to TWO display on one cable on a Mac, the computer port, the cable, and the first device (Dock or Display) must all be genuine ThunderBolt.


A typical 4K display uses up about 17.5 GB of cable bandwidth, so a USB-C port limited to 10 G bits/sec does not fit there at full resolution.


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Oct 21, 2023 5:29 PM in response to Mike G.

The FRONT ports on the Apple studio Max processor are USB-C, and specified limited to 10 G bits/sec.

on the ULTRA model, all are ThunderBolt 40 G bits/sec EACH.


The rear thunderbolt ports acan attain up to 40 G Bits/sec per computer port. Display data have highest priority.


You can chain up to six Thunderbolt docks or hubs or other devices on each computer PORT. But you may run out of available bandwidth first.


To support up to TWO display on one cable on a Mac, the computer port, the cable, and the first device (Dock or Display) must all be genuine ThunderBolt.


A typical 4K display uses up about 17.5 GB of cable bandwidth, so a USB-C port limited to 10 G bits/sec does not fit there at full resolution.


Oct 21, 2023 6:20 PM in response to Mike G.

Mike G. wrote:

How does the device limit interact with USB devices plugged into a thunderbolt 4 port? I have an M2 Mac mini and I’ve tried using 3 different thunderbolt docks (which have multiple thunderbolt as well as USB 3.1 or 3.2 ports) with made by 2 different manufacturers and None of them were able to recognize a usb device plugged into one of the usb-a ports. Do these devices count towards the 6 device thunderbolt limit… or do they count towards some different usb device limit more like the traditional 127 usb device limit?


If you're talking about USB-A ports, those do not count towards the limit of six THUNDERBOLT devices hanging from one of the computer's Thunderbolt ports. Whether you will have enough bandwidth for everything you are hooking up would be a separate issue.


Do these USB devices work when plugged directly into the Mac Studio using a USB-C to USB adapter?

Oct 21, 2023 6:27 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

To support up to TWO display on one cable on a Mac, the computer port, the cable, and the first device (Dock or Display) must all be genuine ThunderBolt.

A typical 4K display uses up about 17.5 GB of cable bandwidth, so a USB-C port limited to 10 G bits/sec does not fit there at full resolution.


Dell says that their 4K UltraSharp 27 4K USB-C Hub Monitor (U2723QE)


"is is the world’s first 27" 4K monitor which allows daisy chaining of an additional 4K monitor at full resolution via USB-C—enabled by Display Stream Compression (DSC)."


But I don't know if any Macs can take advantage of that feature.

Oct 21, 2023 7:22 PM in response to Servant of Cats

Dell also requires Windows for many of its Displays and Docks.


On the Mac, daisy chaining is only supported on genuine ThunderBolt ports, which have twice as many data pathways as USB-C ports.


Other DisplayPort 1.4 capable displays can use Display-Stream Compression (DSC) as well. But it is pure specsmanship to talk about that feature without SPECIFIC display specs at hand, because the next display you try to hook up may only support DisplayPort 1.2 and NO Display Stream Compression. [and Display Stream Compression requires substantial compute-power in the display to un-compress the data stream, so not all displays support it.]

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