Input not working from USB external audio device.

I had an older MOTU audio device that worked flawlessly for years but after updating to Ventura it stopped working on the input side only. Worked with most applications but not Zoom, which is crucial for me. Just bought a brand new Focusrite Scarlett Solo and same problem. Output from MAC works great to both ext. speakers and headphones, but the input only shows on the Focusrite monitor. It does not make it to any apps at all. Yes, it is selected as the system device for both input and output. The meter shows input on the system screen but there is no audio getting to any app. I have tried Zoom, FaceTime, Audacity, etc. I am truly frustrated.

I am running the most recent version of Ventura.