iTunes for Windows is an Unworkable Atrocity-is Music for Window promised for 2023 going to happen?

If you've tried to use iTunes on Windows in the past couple of years, you have all the details you need.

Windows, Windows 10

Posted on Dec 29, 2023 7:59 PM

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Posted on Dec 30, 2023 7:17 AM

  • iTunes for Windows freezes and the program can only be closed with Windows Task Manager.
  • Songs the Music (subscription) playlists cannot be played because of "no internet connection" although the connection is good and works for all other apps and iTunes shows me a logged in. It requires that I log out and then back in again every time I use the app.
  • Random songs that were previously downloaded (my music, not Apple DRM protected songs) are now listed twice with one showing that it cannot be downloaded and one as needing to be downloaded.
  • Random songs that were previously downloaded now show they need to be downloaded and when clicked on on, just churn without downloading forever.
  • Etc, etc., etc. - these problems are all reported repeatedly all over the internet.


I am aware of the "preview" version of Music for Windows which just as flawed as iTunes.


I guess the short answer is that Apple is too busy developing shiny baubles to dangle in front of its customers to bother finishing and debugging its current products. My conclusion is that it's time to replace my Music subscription with Spotify and to test MusicBee, MediaMonkey or other programs for managing and playing my library.

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Dec 30, 2023 7:17 AM in response to Softail2011

  • iTunes for Windows freezes and the program can only be closed with Windows Task Manager.
  • Songs the Music (subscription) playlists cannot be played because of "no internet connection" although the connection is good and works for all other apps and iTunes shows me a logged in. It requires that I log out and then back in again every time I use the app.
  • Random songs that were previously downloaded (my music, not Apple DRM protected songs) are now listed twice with one showing that it cannot be downloaded and one as needing to be downloaded.
  • Random songs that were previously downloaded now show they need to be downloaded and when clicked on on, just churn without downloading forever.
  • Etc, etc., etc. - these problems are all reported repeatedly all over the internet.


I am aware of the "preview" version of Music for Windows which just as flawed as iTunes.


I guess the short answer is that Apple is too busy developing shiny baubles to dangle in front of its customers to bother finishing and debugging its current products. My conclusion is that it's time to replace my Music subscription with Spotify and to test MusicBee, MediaMonkey or other programs for managing and playing my library.

Dec 30, 2023 6:23 AM in response to the fiend

FWIW Apple Music Preview is this beast: https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1. Frankly I don't think its ready to take over from iTunes unless you have a very modest collection of mainstream music. And there is no scripting support for it yet which takes away all my fun. I don't mind the separate apps in iOS, but the whole point of iTunes is that it is a multimedia manager, one place to organize all of your media.


tt2

Dec 30, 2023 7:09 AM in response to turingtest2

turingtest2 wrote:

Frankly I don't think its ready to take over from iTunes unless you have a very modest collection of mainstream music.

That excludes me then.

I don't mind the separate apps in iOS, but the whole point of iTunes is that it is a multimedia manager, one place to organize all of your media.

Agreed.


Following your post, I had a closer look at Apple Music Preview than I did when answering the OP - and wow! Not only does iTunes stop working if it's installed, but it requires an active Apple Music subscription. Although it mentions a compatible version of iTunes, I assume that what it means is that a personal library would be inaccessible until that version is released. No mention of when.


That's a definite no from me. Just as well that I've been looking ahead for some time now.


Thanks tt2.


the fiend

Dec 30, 2023 8:09 AM in response to Softail2011

  • A thorough clean out and reinstall of iTunes might possibly help with the first issue. See Troubleshooting issues with iTunes for Windows updates - Apple Community. If you have third party AV software exclude it from real-time scanning of the iTunes library folder, and the iTunes Media folder if on a separate path.
  • I presume you're running Windows 10 or better and have the most recent build of iTunes, or at least not more than a couple of builds back. Also not running VPN or other third party security software. It may also help to use public DNS servers (e.g. Google's at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4) if your ISP doesn't update theirs frequently enough.
  • See Duplicate songs in iTunes - Apple Community.
  • Delete the Downloads folder inside your iTunes Media folder. Press and hold down shift+ctrl as you launch iTunes to open it in safe mode. This can fix some kinds of issues with the library. Try also Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Reset Cache and clear your browser's cache.


tt2


Dec 30, 2023 5:49 AM in response to Softail2011

You mention Music for Windows, by which I assume you mean a Windows version of the newer Mac OS replacement for iTunes, rather than Apple Music (which turingtest2 refers to), which is a subscription service for streaming music rather than playing the music you already have copies of.


But if you find iTunes for Windows difficult to use, then I doubt that "Music for Windows" would help you.


As turingtest2 does, I'm asking what issues you have with iTunes? If you provide some detail, we can almost certainly help you as I've been an iTunes user for many, many years and I'm fairly certain that turingtest2 has been as well.

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