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Multiple password managers

Hi.

I found this Issue here: Multiple password managers - Apple Community

But it has been brushed off.


As of 2024-01 / iphone 15 / ios 17.2.1

I want to raise this again, because it's missing the right highlight.


I am able to select any *one* password manager.

I am able to select *two* password managers *only if* the second one is 'keychain' from Apple.


This is not an App Issue. *Any* selected third party password manager is *automatically* deselected on change.

Apple's Keychain is *never* deselected. Settings doesn't ask.


This is not only a nuisance, this is a dircet violation of EU 'federal' law:

Consolidated version of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union - PART THREE: UNION POLICIES AND INTERNAL ACTIONS - TITLE VII: COMMON RULES ON COMPETITION, TAXATION AND APPROXIMATION OF LAWS - Chapter 1: Rules on competition - Section 1: Rules applying to undertakings - Article 102


quote: "(c) applying dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other

trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;"


https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A12008E102



I realize that Apple is an american company. USB-C tho.


Please fix this.

Have a great day!

iPhone 15

Posted on Jan 22, 2024 7:41 AM

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Jan 22, 2024 8:07 AM in response to un_lars

un_lars wrote:

Hi.
I found this Issue here: Multiple password managers - Apple Community

The constraint you're encountering is rooted in the inherent design of iOS for password autofill and its emphasis on security. Apple has imposed limitations on the simultaneous selection of multiple third-party password managers for autofill to uphold a robust security framework and avoid potential conflicts.


Upon activating autofill for a specific password manager, iOS grants exclusive access to that manager for autofilling credentials in both apps and websites. Enabling multiple password managers concurrently could introduce conflicts and security risks. This scenario might trigger situations where two password managers attempt to autofill the same field, resulting in unpredictable behavior or potential vulnerabilities.


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Jan 22, 2024 11:26 AM in response to SravanKrA

"This platform is designed as a user-to-user forum with Apple Inc. acting

as a moderator. The primary objective is to foster a community where

users can participate in meaningful discussions while adhering to

established guidelines."


Thanks for the heads up. In this case I misjudged the use-case of this forum, sorry.

I'm still new to Apple - is there any way to open a ticket with them?


"Enabling multiple password managers concurrently could introduce

conflicts and security risks. This scenario might trigger situations

where two password managers attempt to autofill the same field,

resulting in unpredictable behavior or potential vulnerabilities."


regarding this security smokescreen, i believe this is misleading.

When i click on 'passwords' from the keyboard, it asks me which manager I'd like to use in that instance:

('Schlüsselbund' = 'Keychain')


There is no simultaneous access to two managers at the same time. I already have to choose one.

There is no reason not to simply list all configured managers here, and then use the selected one exclusively.

Maybe let me change the order in the settings or something.


You write:

"[...] is rooted in the inherent design of iOS for password autofill..."


Maybe there's something under the hood that prevents this from being implemented.

I believe multiple password managers should not be any more difficult to integrate than multiple email accounts into a single mail app. But I might be wrong, of course.


"Apple has imposed limitations on the simultaneous selection of multiple third-party password managers for autofill"

-> Yes, but not for itself / it's apple app.

Which is exactly the violation here.

If I could only select a single password mananger, regardless if it's Apples keychain or any other, there'd be no violation.



"Identify the app developer." -> I believe 'Settings > Passwords' is developed by Apple.

"Visit their website or app store listing." -> I went to support.apple.com and searched for related keywords. I'ts how I got here.

Again, I'm sorry if I misjudged this forum's purpose, I just don't know where to go yet.


SravanKrA, are you affiliated with Apple?

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Jan 22, 2024 7:57 AM in response to un_lars

If you encounter any challenges with third-party applications, the best course of action is to directly contact the app developer for further assistance. Here's a brief guide on how to do it:


  1. Identify the app developer.
  2. Visit their website or app store listing.
  3. Look for their contact information or support channels.
  4. Clearly describe the issue you are facing.
  5. Provide any necessary information they may need.
  6. Follow their instructions and provide feedback.
  7. Be patient and follow up if needed.


By reaching out to the app developer, you increase your chances of receiving accurate and personalized support for the challenges you're experiencing. To contact an App developer --> How to contact an app developer - Apple Support




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Jan 22, 2024 8:01 AM in response to un_lars

un_lars wrote:


Please fix this.


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