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Not a Numbers question but how are we to tell when a problem has been solved now that all we have are "upvotes" vs "helpful" and "solved". It feels like nothing is ever closed out, all questions remain open forever. I never know if someone 's problem was solved or they gave up or haven't gotten back to it or what. This "upvote" system is very flawed, as is the new point system that will pretty much prevent anyone from leveling up due to the low points received for their hours of helping.

Posted on Mar 1, 2024 5:01 PM

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Posted on Mar 2, 2024 6:03 AM

Can't say I disagree. Many Lounge participants agree as well, and already expressed their concerns months ago.


You can find many examples of replies with the most "upvotes" that are completely wrong and decidedly unhelpful.


What's worse is that replies from the distant past clearly labeled and easily identified as "this solved my problem" no longer have that distinction.

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Mar 2, 2024 6:03 AM in response to Badunit

Can't say I disagree. Many Lounge participants agree as well, and already expressed their concerns months ago.


You can find many examples of replies with the most "upvotes" that are completely wrong and decidedly unhelpful.


What's worse is that replies from the distant past clearly labeled and easily identified as "this solved my problem" no longer have that distinction.

Mar 12, 2024 5:56 PM in response to Badunit

I agree that the new up/down vote system removes clarity about what actually solved a problem. On top of that, the points incentive for users to help has been been greatly diminished. I personally have not changed how often I offer help to solve people's problems, but the up votes/points received have been minuscule. I used to be amused by the dopamine hit I'd get from receiving a Solved from another user and the corresponding jump in points. I guess I'll now be stuck forever at Level 4.

Mar 13, 2024 5:52 PM in response to terryb

I definitely agree with your point about threads being marked as solved more often in the “Pro” forums. I also found it to be applicable to the Numbers, Pages and Keynote forums. On the other hand, the iDevice forums had an incredibly low solved/posts ratio.


The low solved rate I posted about above was based on a couple informal reviews of 4100 posts on all sub-forums, over the span of two separate 24 hour periods, only  255 posts were marked as solved. Even more disheartening than that low number, is the even lower number of 152 actual “solved” replies. The remaining 100 “solved” are distributed between nonsensical replies from the OP, me too replies, thank you marked as solved, and removed replies marked as solved. 


Some may think, I have too much time on my hands …they may be right.

Mar 13, 2024 2:22 PM in response to mdhurst

Unfortunately, the issue is and always has been, that very few people asking questions ever follow up with a reply or an acknowledgement of the help given. Fewer still marked a thread as solved, and if they did, it was quite often marking their own reply. Changing the system to an up/down vote system will not change the behaviour of those people asking questions. The only result of this change is that the points are approximately 10% or less of what they were 3 months ago.

Mar 13, 2024 2:51 PM in response to stedman1

I don't have access to the underlying data of all the Communities here to discuss the percentage increase or decrease of awarded points since the change. As a level 10 Jedi perhaps you do. In my personal experience, the Solved thread marking behavior in the more technical forums, such as Final Cut Pro or Motion, was quite common.

May 5, 2024 11:17 PM in response to Badunit

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My issue is that I am at level three when the change takes place … there won't be a level

seven or 26,000 points for me . I don't believe that the upvote / downvote brings out the best in the users . The previous system was fun & competitive , now most of us will not have the opportunity to be in the lounge or the " special community " .

It feels insulting & non-inclusive to me .


May 6, 2024 6:25 AM in response to SteelCityAnne

SteelCityAnne wrote:

My issue is that I am at level three when the change takes place … there won't be a level
seven or 26,000 points for me . I don't believe that the upvote / downvote brings out the best in the users . The previous system was fun & competitive , now most of us will not have the opportunity to be in the lounge or the " special community " .
It feels insulting & non-inclusive to me .

One thing I can tell you is that, in the twenty-odd years I've been in this forum, there have been numerous different systems for accumulating points. So, this probably isn't forever.

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