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System image and hard drive for Performa

Hey all – I know these boards don't specialize in vintage Mac support / discussions much these days but was hoping you guys can help. I am in need of System 7.5.1 disk(s) and/or an OS 9.1 CD that is provisioned for the Performa 6200CD. Are there images available online for it that I could burn to floppies or CDs, or am I stuck with just finding them on eBay or other means? I know Apple had System 7.x installers available for download on their support site years back but they are long gone. I also need a hard drive for it – I know they take IDEs but does it need to be of a certain spec for it to work on these models? Or would a SATA drive with an adapter work?


Thanks in advance for any help.

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Posted on Apr 1, 2024 7:03 AM

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Apr 1, 2024 7:12 AM in response to Mike_M.

Hello!


It is very hard to start up a physical Mac using an online .DMG burned to a floppy. The online versions usually only work for system updates, but not a restore. I was recently talking to a person at Apple who worked on the disk security and they mentioned that they put disk checks to make sure that the disk isn't copied or distributed illegally. I think that eBay would be the best option for older Macs.


Hope this helps.


Best,

Odawg132

Apr 1, 2024 11:57 AM in response to Mike_M.

Hi!


I'm not sure which hard drive you need for the computer, but you might want to check out MacTracker on the App Store. It has data for literally every single Apple product, so you might be able to find what you need. Personally, I think that since sATA is a standard, it shouldn't matter, but you should always do some extra research - maybe find what other people online in the same scenario did.


Good luck!

Apr 3, 2024 9:02 AM in response to Mike_M.

Hi,


Do you have access to any bootable floppy disk for this Performa 6200CD? For example, a Disk Tools disk.


Is there a hard drive (working or not working) installed right now?


Also, what do you have to work with? Another pre-1997 Macintosh computer with an internal floppy drive? A USB floppy drive? A G3 or G4 Mac capable of running Mac OS 8.x or 9.x? An external USB or SCSI Zip drive? An old Windows PC with a floppy drive? Modern Mac or PC?


Macintosh Performa 6200CD:Technical Specifications - Apple Support

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_performa/specs/mac_performa_6200cd.html

Apr 1, 2024 5:38 PM in response to Mike_M.

Hello Mike! It's been a busy week so I only now had a chance to respond.


We owned a 6200CD/75 so I have more experience with those than I would like. The 6200 series was one of the earliest Macs to have ATA drives instead of SCSI. The internal drive bus is ATA/IDE.


Even later PowerMacs would have required a SATA PCI adapter card. The 6200 does not have a PCI slot. It the old "LC PDS" slot. So no to the SATA option.


The last place I saw that still sold ATA/IDE hard drives was NewEgg.com, but I have not checked in several years.


I think the real question here is what do your need to do with the 6200? If you only need to access data files, you can remove the current ATA drive and connect it to a newer computer—Mac or Windows— using a universal drive adapter. This one works with ATA/IDE drive as well as SATA drives and includes the power supply required for 3.5 inch drives:


NewerTech Universal Drive Adapter USB Bare Drive Adapter


I can find no online sources of OS 7.5 that I would trust as far as I can throw a bison. For OS 9, you would need a full retail disk. That is required because the 6200 was one of the Macs using the "system enabler" scheme. Gray install/restore disks from another Mac usually will not work because they do not contain a universal set of enablers.


And I concur with Odawg132—burned system disks are about 98% hopeless for this.


Thrift shops that handle computer stuff are your best bet. A friend found me a full universal install set of v7.6 on floppies at a Salvation Army Store.


I am not trying to be a online naysayer but rather give an honest assessment here: I must disclose my deep-seated displeasure with the 6200. It was without a doubt the most troublesome Mac we even owned, and we've owned dozens since 1990.


The two greatest days in our 6200 lives were the day we got it, and the day I parted it out for recycling. In between, digital misery. Reinstalling the OS was as good as a calendar because it told us when a fortnight had passed!


Before spending too much money on this thing, I recommend you read this old article on the subject:


https://lowendmac.com/2014/power-mac-and-performa-x200-road-apples/


Ours was far slower than our even older PowerMac 6100/60. It was so bad it could not run Excel spreadsheets at all, the same sheets that were quite happy and speedy when opened on the 6100/60. In the long run, the complete 6100/60 system I bought used for $25 from a print services shop worked far better and longer than the 6200 that cost many times that. The only bits of the 6200 that survived were the monitor—not bad— and the 4X optical drive, which still serves in an 8100/100 that shipped with a sluggish 2x drive.


I will admit that it ran best when I maxed the RAM at 64MB. Anything less was glacial. And "best was still far behind the 6100/60.


Again I'm trying to be open and realistic here, so I hope you take this missive in the spirit of helping it is offered.


Regards,


Allam

Apr 4, 2024 6:53 PM in response to Mike_M.

If you want to run the original OS 7.5.1 that shipped with the 6200, you can purchase its restore CD here. You could also buy an OS 8 (white disk) universal installer CD, but you'd want to have more memory installed than the stock 8 MBs to run a more sophisticated operating system. The same would be true for subsequent releases. The universal installer disk for OS 8.1, 8.5, 8.5.1, 9.0, and 9.1 provides support for formatting the hard drive as a Mac OS Extended (HFS+) volume (or volumes. if partitioned), with a 4K minimum allocation block size for more efficient storage on larger hard drives. The 6200 can't run anything older than OS 7.5.1, but also supports 7.5.3, 7.5.5, 7.6, 7.6.1, and 8.0. All of these versions only support the Mac OS Standard (HFS) format. The hard drive is a 3.5" IDE/E-IDE drive. I wouldn't install anything with a capacity that's larger than 20-40 GBs, as it would likely be overkill. As Allan pointed out, conversion to and use of a SATA hard drive isn't possible. The hard drive's ribbon cable is plugged into the back of the drive, over which a steel cover plate is installed, both of which are installed behind the front bezel.

System image and hard drive for Performa

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