How to use MacBook Pro with external display and no power?

I have this issue, and don't know what to do, I want to use my MacBook in clam shell mode many times in my setup with external monitor/TV, keyboard, and mouse, and not connect power.


I want to be able to not plugin to power, because it was a wasted move when I know I'm just doing a few things and then will be on the move with the laptop.


I do this for several reasons, as the whole laptop experience to me is being able to move and use in other locations. This is holding my productivity back.



Posted on May 5, 2024 10:47 AM

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May 5, 2024 11:07 AM in response to gregraygun_apple_place

After much research, I found several options.


I'm using Fermata right now with my MacBook Pro M3 Pro chip in clamshell mode with Samsung TV 4K through HDMI, external keyboard (iqunix F97) & mouse (MX Master 3) on Bluetooth, with no power connected!


(It's working perfectly fine, the monitor/TV is self powered, as are the keyboard and mouse.)


Apple has a built in utility called 'caffeinate' that can suspend sleep as well!


The Apple Store has Apps that do this, "Amphetamine", & "Sleepless Pro".


There is also console setting using 'pmset' disablesleep with admin rights.


On the web there is an App called "InsomniaX".


Hope this helps others.

May 5, 2024 12:14 PM in response to gregraygun_apple_place

FYI, Apple seems to have removed all support articles that relate to clamshell mode. No reason given, but they do not even show up when you use the "show articles not being dated" filter.


It may be due to conflicts with information in this Apple article:


Keep your Mac laptop within acceptable operating temperatures - Apple Support


specifically this part:



Closing the lid while the computer is not sleeping seems to constitute "putting something over the keyboard."


My concern with clamshell mode whether if running on battery or wall power is temperature. 13-inch Macbook Pros draw air in through the keyboard and hinge. Larger screen sizes models have side vents between the bottom plate and the mail chassis that let in air.


However, all Macbook Pros expel heated air though the hinge. Blocking the exhaust will overheat a computer as fast as blocking an intake—I've tested it.


If you "bookcase" the computer vertically and one side edge of the computer is against, say, the back of a closed bookcase or desk shelf, you've reduced cooling capacity by 50% with 14+ inch model. Open-back shelves would be OK.


However, regardless of the Mac notebook model, the hinge side must be up if the computer is running, vertical, and with a closed lid.


Offered for your consideration.


May 5, 2024 2:24 PM in response to gregraygun_apple_place

you have gone from "how do I use it for a moment without power" to a complex docking station setup that is not 'just a moment' temporary at all.


That computer is a battery-CAPABLE device. It is not optimized as a battery-operated device. (It is NOT an iPhone.)


Your computer performs best when connected to AC power. It can use the full output of the Power Adapter AND when doing especially challenging work will also freely "borrow" power from the battery. In some cases, even with the power adapter connected, the charged state may decline during stressful work.


When used only on battery, your computer has no extra cushion of power, and may perform more slowly. However, for ordinary non-stressful tasks this may not be objectionable (possibly not even noticeable.)


In general, you should ALWAYS connect AC power when it is possible to do so, and only run on batteries (which could be somewhat slower) when no AC sources are at hand. Your Mac will NEVER over-charge.

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