Is Apple Pencil 2nd Gen compatible with iPad Pro M4?

I used to use the air 4 with pencil 2 BUT NOW... I have to buy a new apple pencil. Apple pencil 2 + A$139 down the toilet.

Sell it on ebay. They are going for $50 to $60 right now.

Is your current pencil in good condition? You can sell it on ebay for estimate $50 to $60. If not the ipad pro M4 starts at one thousand dollars. Another $129 for the new pen isn't that much?

After ordering an 2024 Air just 4 hours ago, this is very bad news. I ordered the new device assuming my Apple Pencil 2nd gen is compatible. So I would need two pencils now. A 2nd gen Pencil for my older iPad Pro and a Pencil Pro for the new Air.

Consequently I just canceled my order. A very regrettable design decision by Apple!

Thank you for the information. I understand the need to move the charging components in the new designed iPad. Hence the USB version Pencil still support since it can be recharged separately? But if we can recharge my Apple Pencil 2nd Gen through my old iPad, I should still able to use my 2nd Gen Apple Pen to the new iPad, right? Or this is still not compatiable for some reason?

whttiger25 wrote:

While the website currently says this, I would shocked, dismayed, and angry at Apple if this is actually true. Please apple can you confirm the pencil 2 is in fact compatible with M4 Pro???

Apple doesn't participate here. But, if they say it's true on the website, it's true.

Not planning to buy either now--have a non M1 and an M1 Pro 12.9 but found today there are a lot of alternatives to Pencil 2 which I use daily for some quick sketches (for own use), PDF editing, note taking and photo editing. Hope to get another year or 2 from 2021 Pro but will start to look at alternative accessories for surefor when I do upgrade.

Par_sec wrote

After ordering an 2024 Air just 4 hours ago, this is very bad news. I ordered the new device assuming my Apple Pencil 2nd gen is compatible. So I would need two pencils now. A 2nd gen Pencil for my older iPad Pro and a Pencil Pro for the new Air.

Consequently I just canceled my order. A very regrettable design decision by Apple!

It is never good to assume downward compatibility, especially when considering the purchase of new, leading edge technology. The rule is to always do your research before making a purchase.

par_sec wrote:

Consequently I just canceled my order. A very regrettable design decision by Apple!

You should always buy the tool that best meets your needs. No one in this user-to-user forum has any vested interest in what you decide. And Apple doesn't read here for feedback.

If you don't order the M4 iPad Pro because your older version pencil will not work then youre not really a genuine customer for the new iPad. The pencil is only 10% of the cost of the iPad itself, a small price to pay for such an excellent device. Therefore, if you really want the new iPad, then you really don't care about buying a new pencil !!!! my 2 cents.. :)

I get the need to change the design, etc. I think Apple will sell a bunch more iPad Pros if you offer something like $40 - $75 for old 2nd Apple Pencils in the store. These pencils could then be resold to others. If you treat your customers reasonably well, you will sell more iPads by resolving this Apple Pencil issue. I'm an apple fan, and an apple shareholder who thinks you should consider this idea. Let us know.

stevenwcronin wrote:

I get the need to change the design, etc. I think Apple will sell a bunch more iPad Pros if you offer something like $40 - $75 for old 2nd Apple Pencils in the store. These pencils could then be resold to others. If you treat your customers reasonably well, you will sell more iPads by resolving this Apple Pencil issue. I'm an apple fan, and an apple shareholder who thinks you should consider this idea. Let us know.

First, perhaps understand the Apple Support Community is a user-to-user technical forum. Contributors here are all end-users, just like you. Other than the site Moderators, Apple neither monitor nor participate here. As such, if you hope to reach Apple through these forums, you will be disappointed.

Apple does invite submission of constructive comments and feedback bug via its Product Feedback portal. For iPad and iPadOS:

Feedback - iPad - Apple

OK. Thanks for clarifying that LotusPilot. Do you think this is a reasonable and good idea as well, do other in this forum? I found these emails on the internet for a couple of executives.

Your thoughts on them considering doing this? I would think there's enough demand for the gen 2nd pencils in the 2nd and 3rd world that it could work, but I might be wrong. Thoughts?

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Whether of not you will have any success with writing directly to specific individuals is anyones guess. As for the likelihood of email addresses that you have found online being correct, I cannot speculate.

Perhaps consider that Apple fundamentally does not offer trade-in opportunities for Accessories - the Apple Pencil being just one example.

I'm sure there's some technical reason Apple could not / did not want to make Pencil 2 compatible with the M4 iPad Pro.

Undoubtedly, many will exclaim, "corporate greed" or "apple tax" but if we're in a position to turn in our older iPads and buy the latest but our line in the sand is the accessories, I think we're doing OK.

But, It looks like Apple is only looking for new entrants into the iPad market or those who are handing their current device and accessories over to someone else, then buying a whole new set and not those of us who want to simply lift and replace our current iPad for the new M4.

Oh, well. It's not like my current M1 iPad Pro is any slouch. Onwards.